!!??!! Major schisms in the NCO !!??!!

[Kay B]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

I thought NCO stood for Non Commissioned Officers.

lol... that's what I thought also. Like minds.

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

Why don't you send Brother James a PM and ask him what's going on with the NCO?

Good idea!

[SDG]

My lips are sealed ... One thing I've learned from the Clintons and the cons associated w/ the WPF is ...

DENY. DENY. DENY.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

My lips are sealed ... One thing I've learned from the Clintons and the cons associated w/ the WPF is ...

DENY. DENY. DENY.

It's probably all "a vast right wing conspiracy."

[StillStanding]

FWIW, I never did like the name New Church Order. It sounds too trendy and corny! It will be interesting to hear what JG has to say!

[SDG]

NCO had a lot of promise as an alternative loose fellowship ... but it simply is a community portal at this point.

Apparently each of the founding members has different priorities right now .. and that's fine.

[James Griffin]

The NCO is not and never was an organization, so as such I am not sure a "schism" is even possible.

It is and has been a very loose confederation, an internet based community.

Three apostolic men of great vision and character formed it, but the primary behind it has been Pastor Hutchins.

What it's present vision and direction is would probably therefore be an inquiry to address to Pastor Hutchins, it appears to be an evolving one.

Likewise some of the questions raised would be best addressed by asking the principals, I do not feel it is my place. They are public men.

But as to what I feel comfortable with addressing the original post is below:


QUOTE The New Church Order was organized around the beginning of 2007 True

The three original founders were K Phillips, J Suber and W Hutchins. True

K Phillips apparently has not been involved for almost a year. He has been pushing his Promiseland Association of Ministries and Churches. No comment

J Suber several months ago took the pastorate of a church in Shreveport and has been involved with his church and something called FaithWorks.No comment

The last of the original founders WH has only published two articles in the last eight months or so. (None this year). The site is on the internet

Also the most prolific writer on the site J Griffin apparently has pulled his articles from the NCO website. I have never requested anything be pulled. As far as my articles no longer being there True

It has been said he is no longer attending WH’s church True, but I don't think it is correct to characterize as a "schism". Real brethren can follow different visions without being divided

and is rumored to have been sighted several times attending a Charismatic Apostolic storefront church.I am not sure what a "Charasmatic Apostolic" church is, in spite of a lengthy thread on that topic here. The church where I am currently based is Apostolic in doctrine and is primarily made up of first generation Christians. In my opinion a true rare Apostolic emerging church. And I have great respect for the pastor there, whom I have known for many years

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

NCO had a lot of promise as an alternative loose fellowship ... but it simply is a community portal at this point.

Sure it will re-emerge and probably in different form. With those articles deleted there are only three articles this YEAR.

The site is promoting some meeting in NY saying it

"will be an exploratory journey through ancient texts, searching the ways of God, looking for the shmikah of 21st century leaders."

They seem to be collecting money for it already but don't list speakers, topics, or itinerary??!!??

[mizpeh]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

and is rumored to have been sighted several times attending a Charismatic Apostolic storefront church.I am not sure what a "Charasmatic Apostolic" church is, in spite of a lengthy thread on that topic here. The church where I am currently based is Apostolic in doctrine and is primarily made up of first generation Christians. In my opinion a true rare Apostolic emerging church. And I have great respect for the pastor there, whom I have known for many years

What's an "emerging Apostolic church"?

[Apocrypha]

[QUOTE=mizpeh;466769]

What's an "emerging Apostolic church"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergent_church

The emerging church (also known as the emerging church or the emergent church movement) is a Christian movement of the late 20th and early 21st century whose participants seek to engage postmodern people, especially the unchurched and post-churched.

Dr. R. Todd Mangum, Associate Professor of Theology and Dean of Faculty at Biblical Seminary, describes it this way:

“Emergent” is a loosely knit group of people in conversation about and trying experiments in forwarding the ministry of Jesus in new and different ways, as the people of God in a post-Christian context. From there, wide diversity abounds. “Emergents” seem to share one common trait: disillusionment with the organized, institutional church as it has existed through the 20th century (whether fundamentalist, liberal, megachurch, or tall-steeple liturgical). Its strengths: creative, energetic, youthful, authentic, highly relational. Its weaknesses: somewhat cynical, disorganized, sometimes reckless (even in the theological ideas willing to be entertained), immature[1]

Proponents of this movement call it a "conversation" to emphasize its developing and decentralized nature as well as its emphasis on interfaith dialogue rather than verbal evangelism.

Membership
Emerging churches can be found throughout the globe, predominantly in North America, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and Africa. Some attend local independent churches or house churches[2][3] labelled emerging while others worship in traditional Christian denominations.