WWPF General Council Question

[CC1]

Originally Posted by TCSQ

Nah.....It's probably much more likely that it is a case of men whose eyes are open to the deviousness, dishonesty and the great harm that the leadership of the United Pentecostal Church in their area has wrought in other mens churches both at home and abroad. If they were dealing with men of ethics and integrity I am sure they would have done as you suggest, but when they are dealing with the political machine that is the United Pentecostal Church all bets are off and you do what you have to do. (Spoken from YEARS of first hand experience) That men who are coming out of the United Pentecostal Church have to resort to such protective measures speaks volumes.

It is clear you don't have an axe to grind! Yikes!!!!

[TCSQ]

Seems to me that those who have left are leaving one political regime to go to another.


Exactly! I was going to call it "Reinventing the wheel" but actually it's more like "Reinventing the SQUARE wheel".


I had to go and delete the rest of this reply, as I am so Sick of the man made organization stuff as well as the Liberal/Conservative "One stepper/two stepper/three stepper (I'm a FOUR stepper myself) stuff that it just wasn't fit to be posted.

You may all now proceed to taunt me. I'm done.

[TCSQ]

Originally Posted by CC1

It is clear you don't have an axe to grind! Yikes!!!!

No, no axe to grind, just reminiscing about some of the axes I have had to REMOVE from various parts of my body....LIKE MY SKULL!!!! (Metaphorically speaking that is) Really folks sometimes thinking about these different man made organizations I am put in mind of Colonel Klink and Sergeant Schultz who were "good" nazis and who knew nuthink....NNNNUUUUUUUTTTTHHHHIIIIIINNNNNNKKKKKK!

[Blaylock]

Originally Posted by TCSQ

No, no axe to grind, just reminiscing about some of the axes I have had to REMOVE from various parts of my body....LIKE MY SKULL!!!! (Metaphorically speaking that is) Really folks sometimes thinking about these different man made organizations I am put in mind of Colonel Klink and Sergeant Schultz who were "good" nazis and who knew nuthink....NNNNUUUUUUUTTTTHHHHIIIIIINNNNNNKKKKKK!

What district were you from?

Why not try and make it better than running to the hills

[jrLA]

Originally Posted by Balanced

According to information I got from a General Council member, you don't have to be a member of WPF to serve on the General Council.

This is true. Heard it myself. This is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard! Couldn't believe it when it was told to me. This wwpf thing just gets better and better!

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by Balanced

According to information I got from a General Council member, you don't have to be a member of WPF to serve on the General Council.

So, if they don't pay dues to the WPF then can the UPC pull their license?

Originally Posted by jrLA

This is true. Heard it myself. This is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard! Couldn't believe it when it was told to me. This wwpf thing just gets better and better!

Again this is another example of false information and it intentionally being spread as though it were truth. I have copied from the WPF's Constitution (Which anyone who desired to state the facts accurately instead of repeating gossip could have looked up) the following:

Article I

Section 1. Officers of Councils and Chairmen of Committees


Officers shall be known as members of the Executive Council and members of the General Council. Non-scriptural titles for such leaders shall be purposely utilized in recognition of the fact that the only biblical office of this nature which has a name is that of ‘helps’ (1 Corinthians 12:28). It should be the desire of this fellowship to ‘help’ (i.e. to ‘facilitate’) the work of the Kingdom of God throughout the world.
Officers of WPF shall consist of:
a) An Executive Council of six members

b) A General Council of fifty members

c) The Executive Chairman is one of the members of the Executive Council

d) All members of both Executive and General Councils must be members of WPF and at least (30) thirty years of age, who have been faithful to the life and doctrine of Jesus Christ as expressed in Scripture and as enunciated for fellowship purposes in the Articles of Faith.

BTW if a General Council member told you this they were sadly mistaken according to the by-laws.

[Melody]

there are lots of folks who serve on boards while not necessarily being members of that organization,

isn't there a community in your area that needs witnessing to, rather than waste time discussing something you aren't a member of?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Melody

there are lots of folks who serve on boards while not necessarily being members of that organization,

isn't there a community in your area that needs witnessing to, rather than waste time discussing something you aren't a member of?

Melody, this may be true in secular situations but it is just plain silly to not admit it is strange for the WWPF to have members on it's General Council who are not even members of the org. itself.

We are talking about an org. whose aim is to be a "preferred" future for OP's. That very mantra indicates they don't approve of the UPC's "future".

It doesn't take Albert Einstein to find it strange that men who were unhappy enough with the UPC to be on the formation council of this new org. to then remain with their old org. rather than actually joining the one they birthed and nurtured.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by bishoph

Again this is another example of false information and it intentionally being spread as though it were truth. I have copied from the WPF's Constitution (Which anyone who desired to state the facts accurately instead of repeating gossip could have looked up) the following:

Article I

Section 1. Officers of Councils and Chairmen of Committees


Officers shall be known as members of the Executive Council and members of the General Council. Non-scriptural titles for such leaders shall be purposely utilized in recognition of the fact that the only biblical office of this nature which has a name is that of ‘helps’ (1 Corinthians 12:28). It should be the desire of this fellowship to ‘help’ (i.e. to ‘facilitate’) the work of the Kingdom of God throughout the world.
Officers of WPF shall consist of:
a) An Executive Council of six members

b) A General Council of fifty members

c) The Executive Chairman is one of the members of the Executive Council

d) All members of both Executive and General Councils must be members of WPF and at least (30) thirty years of age, who have been faithful to the life and doctrine of Jesus Christ as expressed in Scripture and as enunciated for fellowship purposes in the Articles of Faith.

BTW if a General Council member told you this they were sadly mistaken according to the by-laws.

BUMP............ for all those who seem bent on perpetuating this mischaracterization.

[CC1]

bishoph,

Thanks for the clarification. Very interesting.