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Old 03-14-2007, 11:03 AM
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:04 AM
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....or at least take "United" out of the name.
..........And replace it with UN-TIED.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:06 AM
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S.A.D.......hmmm.
Stu-burn Apostolics Divided.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:08 AM
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This has been coming for quite some time. I couldn't tell you where it really began, but I can tell you where it is going to end.

It is going to end in Tampa, Florida in October. The United Pentecostal Church is going to vote in favor of television ministry and advertising. This will take place after a summer full of letters, Forward articles, and a lot of political mudslinging. The debate on the floor at this General Conference has the potential of being the livliest ever.

Each day the grumbling, and rumbling gets louder. It seems that there is great displeasure with the direction the movement is currently headed. It is apparent that there is a planned exit by a certain segment of the UPC already in place.

I think the time has come, as true unity is no longer present.

When elected officials begin attacking other elected officials publicly, unity is not present. When preachers call elected officials liars and thieves, unity is not present. When funding is withheld from critical organizational programs as a political statement, unity is not present.

The United Pentecostal Church cannot grow with this amount of contention present. It's time to head down to Splitsville.
And here lies another anti-UPCer.... you folks are a dime-a-dozen....
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:08 AM
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Did you see that the AFF administrator locked a thread this morning?
There were a few elected officials posting on that thread.
And so you start another thread BASHING the UPC.

Some of us think the ADVERTISING (not TV) issue will NOT pass in Tampa.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:09 AM
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And here lies another anti-UPCer.... you folks are a dime-a-dozen....
But are steadily increasing in Value!
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:10 AM
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I've lurked on some other Apostolic forums so, if what I've been reading has any grain of truth in it, it seems that the UPCI was fractured at the General Conference in 1992 or thereabouts at Salt Lake City, if not SPLIT at that time.

I could be wrong. But it seems that is when the split began, if there indeed is a split. But it seemed to be grandly and royally fractured, to say the least.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:12 AM
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Seriously folks .... it is apparent that this retirement benefits package argument is being propped up... along with other carefully crafted one's to justify a long awaited split ....

If this is what the UC's are hanging on to .... along with the holiness argument then I say the fellowship is better off without those clowns .....

Why don't we get to the crux of the matter and stop dilly dallying ????

This has been something that has been deeply rooted for years.

This about money, power, ideology and influence .... not about injustice or some spiritual higher ground.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:14 AM
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So in your opinion who will the slipt go and what will be the issue(s)?
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:15 AM
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Seriously folks .... it is apparent that this retirement benefits package argument is being propped up... along with other carefully crafted one's to justify a long awaited split ....

If this is what the UC's are hanging on to .... along with the holiness argument then I say the fellowship is better off without those clowns .....

Why don't we get to the crux of the matter and stop dilly dallying ????

This has been something that has been deeply rooted for years.

This about money, power, ideology and influence .... not about injustice or some spiritual higher ground.
An innocent bystander gives a HEARTY AMEN!!!!!
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