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Old 03-13-2007, 06:32 PM
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I think that a man who works should eat.

Reasonable fees are expected, and...well...reasonable. Depending on where a man hails from, he will need airfare or enough money for gas and possibly a room to and from...plus food money to, from and while staying...if he has a family travelling with him, the expenses have just gone way, way up...

So...compensate a man for his expenses, and give him something to take home and pay bills with.

I can understand a man asking for a set price up front. I know what its like as a kid, travelling with my parents, to be put up in a roach-filled church parsonage and eat bologna all weekend. Not that there's anything wrong with bologna, and hey, if that's all you've got, be thankful. But there's something to be said for churches that meet the needs of the evangelist and his family, and make sure that he is not only compensated, but allowed to continue to make a living that way.

Churches who treat evangelists as if they are second rate citizens and feed them beans whilst they dine on steak ought to be ashamed of themselves. I'm glad our church treats visiting ministers with respect and great hospitality. Aren't we all to be hospitable?

That said...asking for obnoxious amounts of money just so a church can have the privilege of hearing your prestigious voice belt out the perfect sermon...well...a bit of ego could be in play there.
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:33 PM
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The friend who could care less what he is paid...does he have another source of income? I have seen too many evangelists without funds to pay for health care or retirement. I think these are pretty basic needs.

And so what if a minister books one "big" fee a month or even several fees a month in the summer. What does that really leave him with at the end of a year's worth of living? Surely you recognize that a person who can command a large fee for preaching at a church or conference could make many times more in sales or public speaking outside the church, don't you?

Why would we expect an experienced evangelist who has paid much dues in his younger years; to live without provision in his old age or without decent health care today? What seems like large fees aren't so large when one looks at the big picture. IMO
Excellent post, Sister.

I am not an evangelist, but preach out quite a bit.

I have preached for free.

I have preached more than one service for $25.00.

And, on the other hand, I have been paid many times what I figure I was worth on lots of occasions.

It all works out.
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No ... Newman ... some of these evangelists would not command what they are getting in the business world ... that is outrageous ....
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Would it be wrong for an evangelist to pray to win the lottery so he could go preach for free????
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Would it be wrong for an evangelist to pray to win the lottery so he could go preach for free????
I wonder what Paul's speaking fee was???
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Excellent post, Sister.

I am not an evangelist, but preach out quite a bit.

I have preached for free.

I have preached more than one service for $25.00.

And, on the other hand, I have been paid many times what I figure I was worth on lots of occasions.

It all works out.
CS, You are an upright guy! I've done and felt the same way.
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I wonder what Paul's speaking fee was???
I seem to recall he sewed tents to make some income.........
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No ... Newman ... some of these evangelists would not command what they are getting in the business world ... that is outrageous ....
I am out in the business world. Are you?

I doubt that there is a higher skill in business than weilding influence; and I doubt that there is an evangelist making a huge sum of money preaching who could not go into sales if he chose.
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I am out in the business world. Are you?

I doubt that there is a higher skill in business than weilding influence; and I doubt that there is an evangelist making a huge sum of money preaching who could not go into sales if he chose.
You are correct, of course, but being correct doesn't fit the agenda.
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I seem to recall he sewed tents to make some income.........
Paul didn't make it to retirement now, did he?
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