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Re: New To This-can You Define Please?

I have always considered myself under the "Evangelical" umberella.

If I recall I think Bro J L Hall wrote a booklet on this topic.
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What about a Oneness Church that doesn't have all the standards of the UPC? But believes stanchly in Acts 2:38. Would they be considered Apostolic?
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BTW- Praxeas---though much appreciated and very informing, I am NOT a biblical scholar, and sometimes need things explained in laymans terms! Hence- all my methodical questions. Please again, bear with me!
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BTW- Praxeas---though much appreciated and very informing, I am NOT a biblical scholar, and sometimes need things explained in laymans terms! Hence- all my methodical questions. Please again, bear with me!
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What about a Oneness Church that doesn't have all the standards of the UPC? But believes stanchly in Acts 2:38. Would they be considered Apostolic?
I am quoting MYSELF to see if anyone can answer this question...or WILL answer this question for me........
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They would consider themselves to be Apostolic. Trinitarians would probably consider them Apostolic.
Groups of Pentecostals that are more conservative in key doctrines might argue that they are not, indeed, authentic Apostolics.
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They would consider themselves to be Apostolic. Trinitarians would probably consider them Apostolic.
Groups of Pentecostals that are more conservative in key doctrines might argue that they are not, indeed, authentic Apostolics.
ok..I know I am opening myself up for this one, but the UPC would consider them??? ......(remember... same Acts 2:38 beliefs but different standards)....
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ok..I know I am opening myself up for this one, but the UPC would consider them??? ......(remember... same Acts 2:38 beliefs but different standards)....
It would depend on what district they were in as to whether the UPC would consider them worthy of membership or a group whose very existence would scarcely be mentioned.

The UPC is a structure of governance, not necessarily a homogenized group of believers.
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What about a Oneness Church that doesn't have all the standards of the UPC? But believes stanchly in Acts 2:38. Would they be considered Apostolic?
Well, I'm not UPCI but I'm still considered Apostolic. As far as standards go that varys church by church even in the UPCI.
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ok..I know I am opening myself up for this one, but the UPC would consider them??? ......(remember... same Acts 2:38 beliefs but different standards)....
Wish I would have saw this one before I answered your last one, could have combined answers. Most UPCI folks I've met consider me their brother. I've preached in a UPCI church, made friends in the UPCI, I just don't have the membership card to the org, but we have the same membership card to the kingdom and that's what counts.
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