Tulsa Report Day 2

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

At Baker when the AMF formed if I remember correctly about 72 men crossed the line to form and that doubled within months then in about 4 years it had jumped to about 250 remember this was 68. So 500 men with well known leaders and some large churches in 5 years if they handle themselves like gentlemen it could be a large growth. Remember this is from a bystander I have no intention of joining and I know many men who have came out of the UPC that have no intention of joining. The majority of men who attend the AMC will not join.

Hopefully, this is not too much of a hijack, but on the Day One thread, you mentioned that the Tulsa group will not issue licenses..........how then will they identify members?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Hopefully, this is not too much of a hijack, but on the Day One thread, you mentioned that the Tulsa group will not issue licenses..........how then will they identify members?

They are recognizing local licenses put out by their local churches. It seems strange to me also. But I understand the why. No licenses no violation of the bylaws.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

They are recognizing local licenses put out by their local churches. It seems strange to me also. But I understand the why. No licenses no violation of the bylaws.

I see, so in order to join, you need to be licensed SOMEWHERE. I was just wondering how they would keep control over the statement of beliefs of the individual members.

I won't belabor the point, but I wonder how they will handle independent brethren?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I see, so in order to join, you need to be licensed SOMEWHERE. I was just wondering how they would keep control over the statement of beliefs of the individual members.

I won't belabor the point, but I wonder how they will handle independent brethren?

Most GIB still seek accountability somewhere.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I see, so in order to join, you need to be licensed SOMEWHERE. I was just wondering how they would keep control over the statement of beliefs of the individual members.

I won't belabor the point, but I wonder how they will handle independent brethren?

I have no idea? The concept is strange to me I don't undrstand what they are getting for $60 a month? But you and I both know licenses will be down the road. This is the infancy.

Bro. Reckart has posted some information on the conference:

http://apostoliccontender.blogspot.com/

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I have no idea? The concept is strange to me I don't undrstand what they are getting for $60 a month? But you and I both know licenses will be down the road. This is the infancy.

Elder, I hope you are feeling better today.


I think the $60 a month fee is going to cause a few men that are not quite ready to leave the UPC to wait on joining this group. This high a cost for a simple fellowship card may become an issue.


I am with you though, $60 for what??

[PastorD]

Originally Posted by pentecostisalive

Bro. Reckart has posted some information on the conference:

http://apostoliccontender.blogspot.com/

Funny....the caption on pic with wreckhart. He is all alone. . . . no one getting near him!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by PastorD

Funny....the caption on pic with wreckhart. He is all alone. . . . no one getting near him!

I did notice that.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I have no idea? The concept is strange to me I don't undrstand what they are getting for $60 a month? But you and I both know licenses will be down the road. This is the infancy.

The concept is easy to figure out. This is relationship selling 101 at it's best.

Never make your proposective customer feel like you are bashing the competition early on in the sale cycle.

Never let your customer fee like they have been doing things wrong and need your solution.

Just show them the benefits of the new solution.

Thus is the reasoning of the WPF.

Do not force ministers to choose just the WPF this early on.

Until it gets off the ground financially and structurally.

Then they will have word of mouth advertising from the men who are leaders of the group....