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Old 01-10-2008, 12:09 PM
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Very interesting.

Why do you think that they omitted any reference to the new birth doctrine?

I would have expected a clear statement of the water and Spirit doctrine, which is strangely absent.
5. One becomes the recipient of God’s gift of salvation by obeying the command given on the birthday of the church: “Then Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call,” (Acts 2:38,39). Repentance (Luke 13:3; Acts 2:38; Luke 24:47), being baptized (immersed) in water in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38; 8:16; 10:48; 19:6). and being filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38; 8:16; 10:48; 19:6) was the normative experience in the New Testament and are the essential elements of initial salvation.

All believers in scripture were defined as:

1. Filled or baptized with the Spirit: This was the norm, not the exception (Acts 19:1-6) and was considered standard and essential to being included in Christ and his kingdom (Romans 8:9). By one Spirit are we all baptized into one body (I Corinthians 12:13)

2. Buried with Christ in water baptism: In Paul’s writing, baptism was the point at which official initiation into Christ was ascertained to have taken place (Colossians 2:11-14). Repentance and baptism provides for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38).
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:06 PM
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5. One becomes the recipient of God’s gift of salvation by obeying the command given on the birthday of the church: “Then Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call,” (Acts 2:38,39). Repentance (Luke 13:3; Acts 2:38; Luke 24:47), being baptized (immersed) in water in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38; 8:16; 10:48; 19:6). and being filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38; 8:16; 10:48; 19:6) was the normative experience in the New Testament and are the essential elements of initial salvation.

All believers in scripture were defined as:

1. Filled or baptized with the Spirit: This was the norm, not the exception (Acts 19:1-6) and was considered standard and essential to being included in Christ and his kingdom (Romans 8:9). By one Spirit are we all baptized into one body (I Corinthians 12:13)

2. Buried with Christ in water baptism: In Paul’s writing, baptism was the point at which official initiation into Christ was ascertained to have taken place (Colossians 2:11-14). Repentance and baptism provides for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38).
Exactly.

No explicit statement of the water and Spirit doctrine.

As a matter of fact, John 3:5 never appears among the dozens of references given.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:08 PM
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Exactly.

No explicit statement of the water and Spirit doctrine.

As a matter of fact, John 3:5 never appears among the dozens of references given.
Did they address the trinity? I don't see that either. They really seem to have more of a oneness doctrine like TD Jakes in my opinion.

There is some language in there that the UPC really should get in their articles!
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:09 PM
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Will Haney go to this?

Is Haney against this?

Is this really a split from the UPCI?
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:12 PM
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Will Haney go to this?

I think he already is .

Is Haney against this?

see above

Is this really a split from the UPCI?

from your stand point of beliefs, No.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:16 PM
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Seems like alot of these guys on the committees have been indenpendent for quite some time or had concerns with the direction the UPCI is going.

So you think Haney is going to be an official part of this?

Why would they need another organization? I see some pastors from Oregon on here. Maybe I'll give them a ring.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:26 PM
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:29 PM
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Don't give em a ring, they don't believe in em....
lol

Ok I'll phone them
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:38 PM
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"Hollywood style movies"... ?

Do Disney movies count?
Pocahontas.. The Incredibles... Finding Nemo... Beauty and the Beast... Robin Hood?
Where do we draw the line?

"Worldly sports"...?
Watching the Super Bowl is a sin then?
Suppose I watch the Highlights on YouTube a few days later, is that a sin too?

But what is worldly sports exactly? Pro sports... College sports, High School sports... at what point does it become worldly?

Television?
Suppose I watch some documentaries on Google video that had been shown on TV previously... is that a sin?

What if I go to cnn.com, or msnbc.com to read a news story, then I click on a link that shows some streaming video related to the story... is THAT a violation?

Where do we draw the line??

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"Hollywood style movies"... ?

Do Disney movies count?
Pocahontas.. The Incredibles... Finding Nemo... Beauty and the Beast... Robin Hood?
Where do we draw the line?

"Worldly sports"...?
Watching the Super Bowl is a sin then?
Suppose I watch the Highlights on YouTube a few days later, is that a sin too?

But what is worldly sports exactly? Pro sports... College sports, High School sports... at what point does it become worldly?


Suppose I watch some documentaries on Google video that had been shown on TV previously... is that a sin?

What if I go to cnn.com, or msnbc.com to read a news story, then I click on a link that shows some streaming video related to the story... is THAT a violation?

Where do we draw the line??

HEEEELLP!!!!


Somebody needs to tell these people... you cannot legislate holiness.

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