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12-01-2007, 11:14 PM
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If my understanding is correct Luther was most anti-semitic blaming all Jews for the crucifixtion of Christ, how absurd a notion.
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12-01-2007, 11:15 PM
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He was like so many of us that God chooses to use.
Imperfect.
Flawed.
Fallible.
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12-01-2007, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
"The Jews are a base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth. They are full of the devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine, and the synagogue is an incorrigible whore and an evil slut ... their synagogues and schools should be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and these poisonous envenomed worms should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time...we are at fault in not slaying them."
Martin Luther On the Jews and their Lies
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Yes, there is that.
Pelathais, do you value his contributions, or do statements like this eliminate him from "reformer" status?
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12-01-2007, 11:17 PM
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Wow Pel you beat me to the punch.The early church came from a Hebrew background,by and large only a certain zealous religious faction of Jews despised Christ ,there was a remnant of them that believed according to The Election of Grace.
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12-01-2007, 11:17 PM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais
"The Jews are a base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth. They are full of the devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine, and the synagogue is an incorrigible whore and an evil slut ... their synagogues and schools should be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and these poisonous envenomed worms should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time...we are at fault in not slaying them."
Martin Luther On the Jews and their Lies
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Wow....some people appear bipolar.
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12-01-2007, 11:19 PM
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Certainly Luther did some good.But the church that was started at Pentecost never went out,true Biblical Christianity was practiced long before the Reformation period.
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12-01-2007, 11:20 PM
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"I shall never be a heretic; I may err in dispute, but I do not wish to decide anything finally; on the other hand, I am not bound by the opinions of men."
Martin Luther
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12-01-2007, 11:21 PM
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"An earthly kingdom cannot exist without inequality of persons. Some must be free, some serfs, some rulers, some subjects."
Martin Luther
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12-01-2007, 11:22 PM
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Start a thread about John Owen he was fairly interesting.
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12-01-2007, 11:22 PM
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Yes, there is that.
Pelathais, do you value his contributions, or do statements like this eliminate him from "reformer" status?
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Good question ... it's like asking ... do facts about Thomas Jefferson owning slaves, sleeping around w/ one of them, and not officially recognizing the children he fathered w/ Sally Hemings negate his body of work/involvement with the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights?
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