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12-01-2007, 08:22 PM
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Last time a thread like this was initiated accusations where rampant.
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Is that an example of some kind of a "rampant accusation?" 
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12-01-2007, 08:22 PM
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Oh, Grasshopper! It is not the USE of the wine that Paul had a problem with. It was the ABUSE of the "nectar" that Paul was rebuking. The Bible NEVER condemns the use of wine. It always condemns the abuse of wine. Biblically, wine was not forbidden. However, drunkenness and the debauchery associated with it were always condemned.
I cannot, as an honest minister of the gospel, standing on the plain words of the Bible, prohibit the consumption of wine. In all actuality, I can prohibit it with MY words, but not with God's words.
Everyone has a right and a duty to follow their own convictions. But we cannot preach our convictions as God's word. It is a VERY dangerous thing to mess with God's word.
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Excuse me as I SHOCKAMOO over this post .... 
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12-01-2007, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Is that an example of some kind of a "rampant accusation?" |
The accusations ranged from being called drunkards, being dangerous, and not being a real Christian/minister.
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12-01-2007, 08:32 PM
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Excuse me as I SHOCKAMOO over this post ....
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Glad to oblige! Was that shockamoo before or after the tipping of your wine glass? 
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12-01-2007, 08:34 PM
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Glad to oblige! Was that shockamoo before or after the tipping of your wine glass? |
Funny thing is ... I don't drink ...
Moreover, I just can't add to the Word ... there's a curse for doing so.
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12-01-2007, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Funny thing is ... I don't drink ...
Moreover, I just can't add to the Word ... there's a curse for doing so.
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12-01-2007, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Funny thing is ... I don't drink ...
Moreover, I just can't add to the Word ... there's a curse for doing so.
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I don't either, though I'm told that I would benefit from the "Mediterranean Diet" that includes a moderate amount of wine.
But still, I too cannot take away from nor add to the Word of God. It says what it says and we have to conform ourselves, not attempt to change the Word to suit whatever well intentioned fad we are going through at the moment.
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12-01-2007, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord
Oh, Grasshopper! It is not the USE of the wine that Paul had a problem with. It was the ABUSE of the "nectar" that Paul was rebuking. The Bible NEVER condemns the use of wine. It always condemns the abuse of wine. Biblically, wine was not forbidden. However, drunkenness and the debauchery associated with it were always condemned.
I cannot, as an honest minister of the gospel, standing on the plain words of the Bible, prohibit the consumption of wine. In all actuality, I can prohibit it with MY words, but not with God's words.
Everyone has a right and a duty to follow their own convictions. But we cannot preach our convictions as God's word. It is a VERY dangerous thing to mess with God's word.
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That is sho nuff the truth. If all had that mentality we cannot preach our convictions as God's word I wonder how much better off the UPCI would be today. Issues over wine and television just wouldn't be. As my father told me growing up. You know God for yourself and live by the convictions he gives you; not what others are convicted of.
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12-01-2007, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Funny thing is ... I don't drink ...
Moreover, I just can't add to the Word ... there's a curse for doing so.
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Were the monks who copied the scriptures cursed because they failed to properly copy text...hmnnn 
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12-01-2007, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NewWine
That is sho nuff the truth. If all had that mentality we cannot preach our convictions as God's word I wonder how much better off the UPCI would be today.
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It would be the largest pentecostal organization making the biggest difference in people's lives in the world today!!! That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it.
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