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Old 06-11-2010, 02:08 PM
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Re: Holy Ghost 101: Bernard, Godwin, Borat, Kinzie

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Meaning "Shopped in" or added to the video?



Nope..
Very real.

http://www.spiritualabuse.org/issues/borat.html
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Old 06-11-2010, 02:31 PM
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Wow and like that one person said, where was the discernment of spirits?
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Old 06-11-2010, 02:35 PM
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Wow and like that one person said, where was the discernment of spirits?
Well, somes got it, and somes ain't got it!
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And Timmy gave away his gifts!! Indian giver!!!! LOL
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Wow and like that one person said, where was the discernment of spirits?
I wonder if any of us have considered that we do not know Borat's heart and we do not know what he was feeling while he was in that service. I'm not so sure that God would have stopped that for his sake. He may have possibly been torn between his feelings and his actually needing to get that movie off the ground. Sometimes God doesn't tell us everything and He doesn't always stop everything for the sake of ALL involved. Many times, because we are not God, we don't understand everything.

I remember a girl that we baptized years ago. Her boyfriend was present and she reached out her hand and said, "Let's do this together." Of course, we explained to her that it was an individual thing with God. She appeared to be going through the motions, but we baptized her because she said she wanted to be baptized. When she came out of the water, she had stammering lips. She was so shocked and surprised that she put her hand over her lips to stop it, then she got out of the water and left. God knew her heart. He knew that she needed to know that He was indeed real. Don't know where she is today, but I can guess she has never forgotten that day. She left for California the next morning, hitch hiking.
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Old 06-11-2010, 03:56 PM
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Re: Holy Ghost 101: Bernard, Godwin, Borat, Kinzie

I agree with what Pressing is saying, how can you judge his sincerity? I have never personally came across anyone coming to the alter just to mock and pretend to repent.

However- if my memory serves correctly the preacher in the segment did pick up on something not being quite right with Borat and confronted him--the clip cuts away before that.

We discussed this at quite some length when it was shown in the theaters, many knew the camp meeting and the camp meeting speaker and shared details that happened behind the scenes that this video does not include-

It's funny because the opening scene with him laying/sitting on the cement in front of the supposed doors of the camp meeting is so fake, the people are passing him by just looking at him. For one they do not look at all like the people at the camp meeting, and secondly I know most pentecostal people especially at camp meeting would so friendly trying to reach out to the poor guy he would have had a small crowd around him and nothing like what was shown.
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It's funny because the opening scene with him laying/sitting on the cement in front of the supposed doors of the camp meeting is so fake, the people are passing him by just looking at him. For one they do not look at all like the people at the camp meeting, and secondly I know most pentecostal people especially at camp meeting would so friendly trying to reach out to the poor guy he would have had a small crowd around him and nothing like what was shown.
That's why I originally asked if it was "Shopped" (Altered.)
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That's why I originally asked if it was "Shopped" (Altered.)
Edited, for sure. But it wasn't a cut-n-paste type thing, like Forrest Gump meeting JFK.
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Re: Holy Ghost 101: Bernard, Godwin, Borat, Kinzie

Greg in his full blown antics. This man has been abusive, mean, and very critical when he preaches. If it ain't loud enough, he harasses the sound booth, needing enough volume to destroy people's eardrums.

His dramatics kept him out of many good churches in the District I was in. Maybe Greg has calmed down, but in the past, when he was invited to preach a revival at our Church, I stayed home.

This video doesn't surprise me one bit. This is exactly the kind of thing that would happen in our services. This also shows, the UPCI is in grave error by accepting this kind of behavior as "God". In fact, I was shocked how people would just continue to amen this guy.
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Fred Kinzie (Toledo, OH) was my Pastor in the 70's & early 80's... a faithful man of God... passed away in 2009 at the age of 95.
Rose, do I know you? I went to FAC for one year in the late 60's, then changed over to Antioch Apostolic Church where Paul Dennis was our pastor. Went there from about '69-'76. (then I moved to Pontiac under Roy Well, then to Owosso where Harold Roberts pastored).
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