Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

Honestly Prax...how many times have I responded to this question? BTW, nice slander on CARM by accussing me of "ad hominem's"???? I really appreciate it .

Now, to answer your question AGAIN: "If any man think himself spiritual, or a prophet, let him acknowledge that the things I WRITE UNTO YOU ARE THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD."

When Paul was stating his personal preferences he stated so [e.g., I Cor.], but this topic he ties to the creation order in Eden....which is all encompassing.

I Tim. 2 was explicitly written to address "how to behave yourself in the household of God, which is the church."

So pointing out someone uses ad homs in a debate,which others there said you did, is slander? Seriously. You do and honestly it's not that big a deal except that if you do it in a more public place in a debate between Trinitarians and OPs and you are representing OPs, it makes us look weak by resorting to Ad homs...if you do then just a suggestion you not do it. Here it might mean less.

Anyways, you are quoting a verse from an entirely different context.

The verse you quoted but did not reference, is from 1Cor and clearly Paul writes things that are commandments of the Lord

However Paul informs us that not everything he writes is a commandment of the Lord

1Co 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

And so we have Paul saying "I do not permit" not "The Lord does not permit"...sounds like a personal preference.

[NorCal]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

However Paul informs us that not everything he writes is a commandment of the Lord

1Co 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

And so we have Paul saying "I do not permit" not "The Lord does not permit"...sounds like a personal preference.

Did someone just mention "Pastoral Authority"?

1) When you witness to someone you are "Preaching the Gospel"
2) Pastors, Bishops, Elders, etc, were to be "Husbands of one Wife" - So this rules out Women and Gays?
3) Most "Preaching" done in churches is not preaching, but "Teaching" or "Pastoring"

[Monarchianism]

Originally Posted by NorCal

Did someone just mention "Pastoral Authority"?

1) When you witness to someone you are "Preaching the Gospel"
2) Pastors, Bishops, Elders, etc, were to be "Husbands of one Wife" - So this rules out Women and Gays?
3) Most "Preaching" done in churches is not preaching, but "Teaching" or "Pastoring"

For number 2: What makes you rule out women with this?
Could this not mean that the man had to be a husband of One wife, and could not have many?
( I am not saying that He has to be married to a woman to preach )
As in, a man that has been married twice or more is not allowed to preach?
Perhaps it was a problem with men. Perhaps they wanted more than One. XD

[LUKE2447]

1) Ministers Yes in part but it is a broad term must be defined
2) Pastors No
3) Teachers to men? No!
4) Teachers to women and children? Yes!
5) Edler

[Sister Alvear]

if a woman knows more than a man the great commission obligates her to teach anyone the way to heaven...
however for a woman to sit down a bunch of men preachers and say let me teach you something sounds a little far fetched....
I have been asked a few times to speak at preachers meetings but they wanted a ladies view of some given subject...there is a BIG difference in the spirit that comes from the lady...
I WAS asked to teach a group of pastors on William Branham doctrine on several occasions here in Brazil...I was just to help them understand what that doctrine teaches and what it often leads to.
I see nothing wrong with sharing knowledge...

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

if a woman knows more than a man the great commission obligates her to teach anyone the way to heaven...
however for a woman to sit down a bunch of men preachers and say let me teach you something sounds a little far fetched....
I have been asked a few times to speak at preachers meetings but they wanted a ladies view of some given subject...there is a BIG difference in the spirit that comes from the lady...
I WAS asked to teach a group of pastors on William Branham doctrine on several occasions here in Brazil...I was just to help them understand what that doctrine teaches and what it often leads to.
I see nothing wrong with sharing knowledge...

Having women as a source of information as that vs put in a position of authority is a big difference. Women are given for blessing the source not taking the place of it. Women laying the law down preaching at the congregation..... sorry don't believe in that.

[Sister Alvear]

Most people have enough common sense to know how to behave but there are a few....

[Monarchianism]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Having women as a source of information as that vs put in a position of authority is a big difference. Women are given for blessing the source not taking the place of it. Women laying the law down preaching at the congregation..... sorry don't believe in that.

Take a missionary. If He preaches to sinners, does He have authority over them? Honestly. Are they going to listen? I'd rather have a female preacher over a puffed up dummy who believes that everything He says is True. I am acquainted with a male preacher who puts himself up on a pedestal and behaves as though he's the boss. You have to do this.. you have to believe that... listen to me or leave. We are to hearken unto the Lord will, and not man's opinion. Men are just as capable of believing a lie as women. Take the "uncut" hair doctrine for example in CLC. The more you learn, the more skeptic you become. Seriously; what about some OP churches that preach against watches.. weddingbands? Even some are opposed to every Bible version but the KJV. I can give more.

[budrok]

I am a grandson of a Pentecostal Woman preacher. Enough said.

[Sister Alvear]

blessings to you...