I agree with SISTER Murphy's zeal in promoting relationship with Jesus Christ over the things that may distract us from the important goal.
Where I still take issue with her, however, is in her tone and with her name calling and other destructive forum behaviors. If she is truly involved in a ministry with young people, and if this is how she pursues it - I feel very badly for those kids.
Come visit me sometime SISTER Murphy and I'll take you for a walk through a couple of graveyards. We've got young people there and there's plenty of room for even more. Those who aren't physically dead, but are spiritually burnt out got to be that way because of the angry and forceful way in which their elders crammed religious traditions down their throats.
I say it's about time someone in the Apostolic ranks stood up to the bullies that have been killing us. Look at our numbers and our history. You guys are literally killing us.
While Roxanne doesn't need my defense, I don't believe she is that way in person. I rather think that she is blunt in her mannerisms here, and perhaps she comes across a little brash, but then again, so do I sometimes, even when I don't intend to be.
Roxanne and I 'come to blows' on this forum often, but we have also talked privately about our own lives and I think she is a great person. I wish I lived a lot closer to her because I think that in spite of our differences, we'd be good friends.
Maybe it's because we are so much alike....LOL!
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While Roxanne doesn't need my defense, I don't believe she is that way in person. I rather think that she is blunt in her mannerisms here, and perhaps she comes across a little brash, but then again, so do I sometimes, even when I don't intend to be.
Roxanne and I 'come to blows' on this forum often, but we have also talked privately about our own lives and I think she is a great person. I wish I lived a lot closer to her because I think that in spite of our differences, we'd be good friends.
Maybe it's because we are so much alike....LOL!
I can appreciate that she's probably a wonderful person; and whether I like it or not I have to adjust my own feelings to accomodate her as a sister. I just would like to think that its a two way street.
I can appreciate that she's probably a wonderful person; and whether I like it or not I have to adjust my own feelings to accomodate her as a sister. I just would like to think that its a two way street.
The biggest disadvantage to the internet is that it lacks emotion. When we can't hear the tone of a post, our mind does it for us. If it's someone we really like or someone like Scott , we hear a soft, calm voice. If it's someone we don't like or someone known for speaking out, we hear a loud, bold voice.
At least, that's what I hear.
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The biggest disadvantage to the internet is that it lacks emotion. When we can't hear the tone of a post, our mind does it for us. If it's someone we really like or someone like Scott , we hear a soft, calm voice. If it's someone we don't like or someone known for speaking out, we hear a loud, bold voice.
At least, that's what I hear.
What we "hear" is influenced much by the attitude that comes across in a post. It's not usually hard to tell what that is unless the reader is listening with bias, possibly.
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What we "hear" is influenced much by the attitude that comes across in a post. It's not usually hard to tell what that is unless the reader is listening with bias, possibly.
When a poster clearly resorts to name calling and ad hominem attacks you usually can pick up on their attitude with a fair degree of certainty.
Fearing that I had missed something in the "drugs and alcohol" comparision on this thread, I asked politely for clarification. The immediate response I received was name calling. Other posters expressed dismay similar to my own and the name calling continued.
I find this pattern of behavior not just on the 'net but throughout our fellowship as well. We demean anything that is different and resort to name calling and personal attacks all too readily. When someone actually stands up against these behaviors the reults are predictable. The name callers slink off into their dark corners complaining about how they were "misunderstood" and how "mean" you must be to have stood up to them.
This is the classic passive/aggressive strategy that Satan is using to destroy the Apostolic movement. The worst offenders call themselves "conservatives" but they are really radicals who are bent upon forcing everyone to adhere to their 50 year-old innovations.
Maybe some day BOOM will let me show you some of the dead bodies or to post and replay some of the lies that have formed us into what we are today. People have really been killed over this stuff. It's a serious matter and we must stand against it to preserve the Christian faith.
Are you saying that you don't get entertainment from someone singing and be able to worship God as a result?
Believe it or not, but I cannot both be entertained and worship at the same time. IF I am entertained, then my flesh is getting something it likes. Now, is it wrong to find joy and laughter in life? No. But, to say that is the same as worship is incorrect. Worship, true worship, is focused on Jesus, and it involves a sacrifice.
Believe it or not, but I cannot both be entertained and worship at the same time. IF I am entertained, then my flesh is getting something it likes. Now, is it wrong to find joy and laughter in life? No. But, to say that is the same as worship is incorrect. Worship, true worship, is focused on Jesus, and it involves a sacrifice.
I agree with you to an extent. Worship is when you have entered into deeper communion with the Lord. It starts with praise. Wednesday night we played about 3 really upbeat songs. It settled everyone down and got them into a good frame of mind on a Wednesday night. Then we went into some slower worship and the God moved in very powerful. We had an awesome move of God.
I agree with you to an extent. Worship is when you have entered into deeper communion with the Lord. It starts with praise. Wednesday night we played about 3 really upbeat songs. It settled everyone down and got them into a good frame of mind on a Wednesday night. Then we went into some slower worship and the God moved in very powerful. We had an awesome move of God.
Thank you for pointing out that praise and worship are different. Praise is simply giving glory and honor to God, by various means, for His goodness, His greatness, His blessings, His numerous attributes....... I did a look through the Bible along the theme of worship. And I discovered that worship, real worship, came about after a sacrifice, and it involved the abasing of one's self in the presence of the One being worshipped. Sometimes praise has its' focus on the 'things' God has given us, as we are expressing our thanks for them. However, worship is solely directed to God, and HE is the center of attention.
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