From MOW's own mouth - Page 19

The Dean · #**181** 08-08-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Amazing how many conservatives have suddenly showed up to applaud MOW's decision to leave - huh?

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Originally Posted by J-Roc

Let me help you....PP is referring to how many have suddenly showed up...their presence is enough....get it?

Seems like you did not have to wait too long after all...

Hey, Jroc, he said some were here to 'applaud' his leaving. That's an audible expression. Show me ONE person that 'applauded' his leaving. You can't and you know it.

Their presence is here because it's an active thread. That probably won't suffice one that is looking for rhetoric, however. The offer still stands: I'm not looking for presense I'm looking for applause.

Either show it or admit your wrong.

The Dean · #**182** 08-08-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Roc

Guy has not posted since almost 3 weeks ago (besides something on music) and before that 3 months ago or so....then suddenly, he arrives.

THAT is the strength of your argument?

Sound reasoning at its best.

J-Roc · #**183** 08-08-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dean

Hey, oh wise one, he said some were here to 'applaud' his leaving. That's an audible expression. Show me ONE person that 'applauded' his leaving. You can't and you know it.

Their presence is here because it's an active thread. That probably won't suffice one that is looking for rhetoric, however. The offer still stands: I'm not looking for presense I'm looking for applause.

Either show it or admit your wrong.

I cannot help you understand inference, dean....that is a skill that really is not teachable....PP's comment was based on inference

Rico · #**184** 08-08-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I have received phone calls amidst speculation as to why I have left. Today is the first time I have logged since July. It is not and NEVER has been my intention to control anything that goes on here on this forum. I am not an owner and I have nothing invested here other than time. My comments here MUST NOT be construed as trying to hurt this forum or do anything negative in any way whatsoever.

I am FOR truth and have repeatedly stated that we NEVER need be afraid of truth or telling the truth, including why I or anyone else has left this forum, their organization, or what have you. It is truth that sets people free. I am FOR freedom of expression of ideas on this forum whether they be pro or con UPC or any other organization. Truth is truth.

I have NOT left because of anything to do the "Ohio Church" thread.

The truth is, IMO, that there is a "tension" that exists between two viewpoints on the Admin team. Those two viewpoints have caused tension on more than one occasion. Even in the midst of that, I have NEVER been treated any other way by any member of the Admin team other than with respect and kindness. However, I am not and NEVER will again be UPC. My viewpoint is at odds with some others when it comes to the level of truth that can be discussed and issues that are "fair game" on this forum.

Since I am not an owner, I do not feel that it is fair for me to "pull" the direction of this forum in any way. However, it became a source of frustration for me to go back and forth on these "control" issues. I have no desire whatsoever to re-hash those issues. I have been out of the UPC for over 10yrs and have no desire to go back and fight those battles. For that reason and that reason alone, I chose to leave so as not to cause continued friction from my point of view. The last thing I want to do is cause trouble. No one asked me to leave, quite to the contrary, I was asked to stay. I love everyone here including every single one of the Admins who have treated me kindly.

IMO, the two viewpoints can't co-exist. There is too much pressure from the outside. (purely my opinion)

In the church I pastor, we have had to deal with some extremely difficult issues, one being child molestation from one of our SS staff. He currently is prison. I hid NOTHING from the church, the police or anyone. Since we dealt with it "head-on" and other issues as well over the years, we have not even landed in the paper in a negative light. If you hide nothing, people have nothing to "dig" up.

I have gone on record stating that when truth is stifled on this forum, in any manner, I'm gone.

You all are a GREAT bunch of people who have blessed me abundantly. You are greatly appreciated. Please don't be upset if I'm no longer here. I have not hidden my true identity, phone numbers or email address. I have nothing to fear from anyone.

To contact me, go to:

www.newlife-church.org

For you "lazy" folks out there

419-625-6110 Office
419-239-3429 Cell
419-433-4127 Home
manofword@newlife-church.org Email

May you ALL be blessed above measure!!!!

MOW (John Adams)

Brother, you are right. The same thing that causes tension on the posting "floor" can cause tension behind the scenes. Somebody mentioned heading in one direction. I have come to realize that it just isn't going to happen on these forums. There will always be a tug of war in process.

The Dean · #**185** 08-08-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Roc

I cannot help you understand inference, little dean....that is a skill that really is not teachable....PP's comment was based on inference

Insulting an Admin is not the smartest thing you've ever done.

He said applaud. You agreed. You can't find it. I'll accept that as conceding.

Without insulting you.

Rico · #**186** 08-08-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Roc

I cannot help you understand inference, little dean....that is a skill that really is not teachable....PP's comment was based on inference

Is this really necessary? Can you at least show him some respect as an administrator? Is that asking too much?

#**187** 08-08-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

That's a pathetic sexist statement if I ever heard one.

Hi, HO....I was just about to jump in with a comment, but you beat me to it. .....Thanks!

J-Roc · #**188** 08-08-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dean

Insulting an Admin is not the smartest thing you've ever done.

He said applaud. You agreed. You can't find it. I'll accept that as conceding.

Without insulting you.

what do we call "oh wise one" .... a sincere compliment?