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03-10-2020, 12:42 PM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
Saying that if I do something in faith unto God is permissible has some deadly reprocussions.
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03-10-2020, 11:52 PM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
Be not drunk with wine wherein is excess (or dissipation, depending on your translation), but be filled with the Holy Spirit.
Be not drunk...be filled with the Holy Spirit. That is a standing order. You cannot fulfill this imperative by getting drunk even once. What's the danger? One bout of being drunk might be the difference between life or death, between sinning or not sinning, and/or losing your soul.
You are not the same human when you are drunk. There may be a hidden, even seething violence underneath all that calm and patient exterior, that you are able, while sober, and with the help of the Holy Spirit, to keep in check. But lose those inhibitions, tie one on, and you have no idea who you might hurt. Might be your wife, your kids, someone else close to you, and you may never recover that relationship, and that may spiral you into a place of utter chaos and emotional calamity.
You might be in control of your lusts around others when sober, but drunk, you might make a pass at someone sexually, and who knows where that might get you. Might get you slapped, might get you fired, might get you divorced, might get you in someone's bed.
And don't forget driving drunk. The life you kill may NOT be your own. Then how are you going to live with yourself?
No, my friends. Be SOBER, be vigilant, for you have an adversary waiting for you to let your defenses down. And getting drunk is the easiest way for those defenses to come crashing to the floor. Then he might come and claim you easy as he pleases before you have the ability to say no. And in such a case, is Jesus morally obligated to rescue you? You broke faith, disobeyed the Word, injured your witness, and gave Christianity a bit of a smudging up, not to mention reproached your Savior. Maybe He comes to your aid, and maybe He lets you lie in the bed you made.
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03-11-2020, 04:44 AM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
Other than Loren, no one is advocating drunkenness.
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03-11-2020, 06:45 AM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Saying that if I do something in faith unto God is permissible has some deadly reprocussions.
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Oh come on get real, the word has nothing to do with doing something that is out right wrong. But drinking is not something that is spelled out in the bible, one way or the other. There has always been room for discution, and if any body went as far as to study the wine making process before pasteurization or homogenization they would know that the fermentation process was the purification process to make wine in the bible days last, without going bad.
All the juice or wine in the bible was fermented. And if you know anything about the wine making process you would know that what Solomon is talking about in Proverbs Is not hard liquor or fermented wine, he is talking about wine in the process of becoming fermented.
The real admonition the bible speaks about is being a drunkered.
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03-11-2020, 06:52 AM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
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Originally Posted by diakonos
Other than Loren, no one is advocating drunkenness.
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I am not advocation drunkenness either, and I am not saying go out to the bar and drink it up. But what I am saying is drinking a glass of wine at your dinner table or a beer when you get home from work is not going the send your soul to hell.
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03-11-2020, 08:08 AM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer
Oh come on get real, the word has nothing to do with doing something that is out right wrong. But drinking is not something that is spelled out in the bible, one way or the other. There has always been room for discution, and if any body went as far as to study the wine making process before pasteurization or homogenization they would know that the fermentation process was the purification process to make wine in the bible days last, without going bad.
All the juice or wine in the bible was fermented. And if you know anything about the wine making process you would know that what Solomon is talking about in Proverbs Is not hard liquor or fermented wine, he is talking about wine in the process of becoming fermented.
The real admonition the bible speaks about is being a drunkered.
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Getting real is understanding that inebriation is forbidden. Whether you get it from narcotics, fermented beverage, or food. It is all the same thing. Let your moderation be known of all men, therefore someone who had full control over their senses also would of their tongue. Therefore having control over their whole body. The submission to the Holy Ghost insured they would walk and not stumble. Run and not fall.
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03-11-2020, 10:11 AM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer
I am not advocation drunkenness either, and I am not saying go out to the bar and drink it up. But what I am saying is drinking a glass of wine at your dinner table or a beer when you get home from work is not going the send your soul to hell.
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What if the one beer/wine gets you “ buzzed “ ?
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03-11-2020, 06:48 PM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
Deu 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Deu 14:23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
Deu 14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Deu 14:25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Deu 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
What does this mean?
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03-11-2020, 06:49 PM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
Pro 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
Pro 31:7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
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03-11-2020, 06:55 PM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?
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Originally Posted by Armapeet.Singh
Pro 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
Pro 31:7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
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I’m forgetting my poverty
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