Why Sunday

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Just to give your post a more fair response.

To say the night does not get as dark at night in the summer is an understatement. It DOES NOT GET DARK AT ALL.

Only as the year gets closer to autumn does it even lessen any brightness at all.

God's word was clear in Genesis. He called light day and the darkness night. It is not night if it is not dark. Period.

All in all, these verses says IT IS FOR ISRAEL:

Exodus 31:12-18 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

If it is not dark it is not night. Period.

But God never said a night and a day is a day. Rather, an evening and a morning constitute a day. An evening is not night. Sorry, but your arctic argument simply doesn't work.

[Esaias]

About a sign between God and Israel. Brother Blume, are you part of the commonwealth of Israel? Or not?

Anyways, the fact that the Sabbath was a sign between God and Israel does not mean "therefore nobody else ought to remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy." The Sabbath was a token or sign or indicator of the fact that Israel belonged to God. So the nations who did NOT keep Sabbath were thereby identified as not belonging to God. All this is just proving that non Sabbath keepers aren't in possession of one of the signs of being the Israel of God. Which I don't think was your intention in this line of reasoning, but, there it is.

The Sabbath, as well as the Feasts, were a sign, something that signified who was the God of Israel and who Jehovah's people were. It was a token of covenant relationship. Arguing from that to "therefore non Israelites have no obligation to obey the 4th commandment" is beyond reaching, it's just making a claim without any actual argumentation.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Yes, meaning if there were only 1 day in the extreme arctic, then they would have to use a completely different calendar than the rest of us. But as I showed there are 365 days in the arctic like everywhere else. 365 evenings, therefore 52 Sabbaths, everywhere on the planet.

As I stated it's not about calendars, but night and day periods.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

About a sign between God and Israel. Brother Blume, are you part of the commonwealth of Israel? Or not?

Yes Good point.

Anyways, the fact that the Sabbath was a sign between God and Israel does not mean "therefore nobody else ought to remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy." The Sabbath was a token or sign or indicator of the fact that Israel belonged to God. So the nations who did NOT keep Sabbath were thereby identified as not belonging to God. All this is just proving that non Sabbath keepers aren't in possession of one of the signs of being the Israel of God. Which I don't think was your intention in this line of reasoning, but, there it is.

The Sabbath, as well as the Feasts, were a sign, something that signified who was the God of Israel and who Jehovah's people were. It was a token of covenant relationship. Arguing from that to "therefore non Israelites have no obligation to obey the 4th commandment" is beyond reaching, it's just making a claim without any actual argumentation.

It's just as law was for Israel to all their generations, and law ended with Christ. At Christ, sabbaths became the greater form and the day which was a shadow ended.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

If it is not dark it is not night. Period.

But God never said a night and a day is a day. Rather, an evening and a morning constitute a day. An evening is not night. Sorry, but your arctic argument simply doesn't work.

Yes, it does work.

Evening is start of the night and morning is start of the day. There is no evening if the night does not follow. It's one long day for weeks in the north.

Since you are really getting technical here, let me do so as well. Does your estimation of when sabbath ends and starts depend on the actual time the sun is seen to start coming around the other way?

Evening is at sunset when the day (which is defined as light) ends. There is no day when light ends to call it evening up north.

Evening means close of day/light. There is no evening up north during the summer. Ther eis no morning up north in winter.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

As I stated it's not about calendars, but night and day periods.

I guess we're just having a communication breakdown here.

The Sabbath is not determined by night and day periods, but from one evening to the next.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

There is no evening up north during the summer. Ther eis no morning up north in winter.

Are you up north in the winter where there are no days at all? Which means time stops up north, but ...

[Esaias]

I never understood why some people spend as much time, effort, and study to determine what they DON'T have to obey out of Father's Word, rather than finding out more about what God wants, how He wants us to live. It's a different perspective to me, a foreign mindset, I honestly don't understand it.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I never understood why some people spend as much time, effort, and study to determine what they DON'T have to obey out of Father's Word, rather than finding out more about what God wants, how He wants us to live. It's a different perspective to me, a foreign mindset, I honestly don't understand it.

Is it possible for someone to keep the Sabbath by themself? What exactly would you do?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Are you up north in the winter where there are no days at all? Which means time stops up north, but ...

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