Re: Kavanaugh-- In Case You're Keeping Score

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by jfrog

If Kavanaugh had liberal leanings the Republicans would be doing the same as the Democrats currently are and would be refusing to vote for him because he drinks too much and because of how he defended himself in the Senate hearing.

What should concern us all is how the Democrats tried to turn our right to fair trial and due process into something akin to Communism, (which the majority of their party seems to be embracing) guilty before proven innocent.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Charles Ludington saw the bar fight where a friend was arrested, and felt that Kavanaugh lied outright about his behaviour in those years:

And one consequence .. unfit for the Supremes.

You wrote a small testimony about your life when you were younger. Do you act that way today? Do any of us here? I would venture to say no.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You wrote a small testimony about your life when you were younger. Do you act that way today? Do any of us here? I would venture to say no.

If I lied about Woodstock, Altamont, what was passed around at the Hendrix concert at the Bitter End (I think it was a Tim Leary benefit) or about how somebody got hurt by my actions or inactions, or about a pot bust, and lied in a boorish, combative, tricky, whining, tipsy way, I hope you would be very wary of giving me some special responsibility.

Even if I pointed to responsible behaviour the last 40 years. You wlll not hear me “embrace pot” present tense. Allowing that the medical elements are interesting, and used as an excuse by stoners.

Kav did an op-ed in the WSJ where he tried to walk back his repugnant, pathetic behaviour at the hearing. Lacking specifics about his lies. Good try. Too little, too late.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

the Democrats tried to turn our right to fair trial and due process...

This is advice and consent about a proposed life-time position, not a trial. Due process would have looked closer at Kav’s behaviour and claims at the hearing, including whether Kav committed perjury.

[aegsm76]

SA - seems like you have changed this from an allegation of a sexual assault to now that he is unqualified because he drunk heavily in high school and college.
Even though his drinking was limited to "recreation" times.
And that he "lied" under oath about his yearbook posts.
When he was 17-18.
Makes me wonder how you felt about a POTUS that lied under oath and was a serial sexual criminal.
Or about a POTUS that used Cocaine and Marijuana.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

This is advice and consent about a proposed life-time position, not a trial. Due process would have looked closer at Kav’s behaviour and claims at the hearing, including whether Kav committed perjury.

You know, if being honest, it is search and destroy. Now that the attempted rape charges are found to be false, they want his drinking investigated. They don't realize that sane people realize that while investigating anything about rape, it would also turn up anything on drinking or anything drug related. The Left is unhinged with insanity. I attribute that to the majority who don't believe in God or who don't care about God.

We see Kamala Harris with her Communist bent - demeaning words to Kavanaugh about the "little book he carries." He replies, "Yes, the US Constitution." That shows you how the Left view our country and Constitution.

[Pressing-On]

I believe that Murkowski will be a no vote on Kavanaugh. My view is that the rape statistic in Alaska is very high, and even though Kavanaugh is innocent, her constituents would be furious.

Women are pouring their #MeToo anger onto a target, whether innocent or not. They just want to vent.

[n david]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

SA - seems like you have changed this from an allegation of a sexual assault to now that he is unqualified because he drunk heavily in high school and college.
Even though his drinking was limited to "recreation" times.
And that he "lied" under oath about his yearbook posts.
When he was 17-18.
Makes me wonder how you felt about a POTUS that lied under oath and was a serial sexual criminal.
Or about a POTUS that used Cocaine and Marijuana.

Steven changes to whatever the current Democrat position is.

First it was Ford's allegations.
Then when that's been proven false it became "Kavanaugh perjured himself."
That didn't stick, so now it's "Kavanaugh has human emotions" and "Kavanaugh drank too much."

He's all over the field.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

What should concern us all is how the Democrats tried to turn our right to fair trial and due process into something akin to Communism, (which the majority of their party seems to be embracing) guilty before proven innocent.

Of course. I'm mad as can be at the Democrats. They may even push me to get out and vote this November. I also agree that if this was about justice then it wouldn't have been released as an 11th hour claim.

I also believe the Republican side has more integrity than to sit on something like these allegations and release them at the last minute. However, they wouldn't have been above using such allegations to slam any hinder any liberal judges nomination. They wouldn't have been above making the temperament argument or the drinking argument. They would also be pushing the possibly lying to the Senate talking point a lot. So all I'm saying is that if roles were reversed the Republican side would act with a little more integrity in having that allegation investigated before the 11th hour but everything else would be the same.

I don't believe the sexual assault allegations at all and haven't since the beginning even though I think Ford appeared as a credible witness in the Senate hearing, but the lack of corroboration and the major recent memory lapses cause me doubt and the fact that she flies frequently after saying she was afraid to matters more than the credible demeanor she presented in the questioning .

I don't care about his temperament in defending himself against false allegations. I can understand a wide range of emotions in doing so and think that should be forgiven under the situation especially since he acknowledged he did so.

What I am currently concerned with is whether he lied to the Senate in any way. That does cause me pause.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Of course. I'm mad as can be at the Democrats. They may even push me to get out and vote this November. I also agree that if this was about justice then it wouldn't have been released as an 11th hour claim.

I also believe the Republican side has more integrity than to sit on something like these allegations and release them at the last minute. However, they wouldn't have been above using such allegations to slam any hinder any liberal judges nomination. They wouldn't have been above making the temperament argument or the drinking argument. They would also be pushing the possibly lying to the Senate talking point a lot. So all I'm saying is that if roles were reversed the Republican side would act with a little more integrity in having that allegation investigated before the 11th hour but everything else would be the same.

I don't believe the sexual assault allegations at all and haven't since the beginning even though I think Ford appeared as a credible witness in the Senate hearing, but the lack of corroboration and the major recent memory lapses cause me doubt and the fact that she flies frequently after saying she was afraid to matters more than the credible demeanor she presented in the questioning .

I don't care about his temperament in defending himself against false allegations. I can understand a wide range of emotions in doing so and think that should be forgiven under the situation especially since he acknowledged he did so.

What I am currently concerned with is whether he lied to the Senate in any way. That does cause me pause.

The sexual allegations proved to be false. The first FBI investigation he had would have covered the drinking, because that is something they do check as per Sen Tom Cotton. The 1st FBI investigation was closer to the event questioned than any other.

So, what's left to lie about? He has a long record of decency and fairness. What would his teen years have to do with anything now, after all of this?