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Old 11-18-2015, 03:26 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris

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So, we don't believe them at anytime?
? believe, don't believe...it is about the world, so it really doesn't matter, imo.
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:41 PM
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you cannot prove that Muhammad did any of those things--that is just your programming talking.
Since you posted directly after me I suppose this is aimed at me. So here is how some of this has been sanctified by Allah and Muhammad:


The "Holy Writings" of Islam confirm it.

Murder
For example a man was assassinated because he spoke against Muhammad:
Bukhari: Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al..Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."

Afterwards this Muhammadan lied and got close enough to murder the man. Muhammad was ALL for it no matter what it took.

Slaughter
Muhammad said slaughtering people is Allah’s judgement.

Bukhari: Volume 5, Book 58, Number 148:
Narrated Abu Said Al..Khudri:
Some people (i.e. the Jews of Bani bin Quraiza) agreed to accept the verdict of Sad bin Muadh so the Prophet sent for him (i.e. Sad bin Muadh). He came riding a donkey, and when he approached the Mosque, the Prophet said, "Get up for the best amongst you." or said, "Get up for your chief." Then the Prophet said, "O Sad! These people have agreed to accept your verdict." Sad said, "I judge that their warriors should be killed and their children and women should be taken as captives." The Prophet said, "You have given a judgment similar to Allah's Judgment."

Prisoners of War were slaughtered by Muhammad's command as he stated it was the same judgement Allah would give.


Rape:
Surah 33:50 O Prophet! We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have given their dowers; and those ladies whom your right hands possess (from the prisoners of war) whom Allah has assigned to you...

The Koran sanctifies the rape of women captives (those the right hand possess).


Pedophilia
Bukhari: Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed [consummated] that marriage when she was nine years old.

Bukhari: Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani..al..Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.


Surah 65:4 If you have any doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, then you should know that their waiting period will be three months, and the same will apply to those who have no menstruation due to young age

Prepubescent marriage is sanctified by Allah in the Koran.

Bukhari is the premier Hadith collector. These Hadiths are Sunna thus used for Sharia Law - divinely inspired law.



This is just a small sampling.
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Old 11-18-2015, 06:52 PM
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This is just a small sampling.
ya, not interested, P, it's just hate mongering. You don't wanna wade too deep through your time of law, either. it doesn't rep the Muslims i know. Maybe one just attracts that type or something?
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:13 PM
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ya, not interested, P, it's just hate mongering. You don't wanna wade too deep through your time of law, either. it doesn't rep the Muslims i know. Maybe one just attracts that type or something?
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I know you are not interested. It's the truth. Something you apparently have a phobia about. Perhaps an allergic reaction?

Their holy writings...
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:21 PM
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that is not the same as "Muhammad murdered and raped." i always heard that the Qur'an was just the Pentateuch reworded--has this gone out of fashion now?
Yes it is. He ordered others to murder and rape..besides he DID partake in what he commanded

If I give you the evidence from the Islamic writings, will you read it?
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Two 707 jumbo jets hit the two skyscrapers the fuel ignited, melted the steel, and a pancake effect brought all three buildings down into their own footprint.
Steel didn't melt. Didn't have to. Steel just has to weaken. Thermal dynamics and gravity did the rest
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ya, not interested, P, it's just hate mongering. You don't wanna wade too deep through your time of law, either. it doesn't rep the Muslims i know. Maybe one just attracts that type or something?
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Quoting Islamic writings about Muhammad is hate mongering? LOL
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Steel didn't melt. Didn't have to. Steel just has to weaken. Thermal dynamics and gravity did the rest
Oh but of course, happens in skyscrapers all the time when they are hit by jumbo jets.
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Yes it is. He ordered others to murder and rape..besides he DID partake in what he commanded

If I give you the evidence from the Islamic writings, will you read it?
Shazeep doesn't even read what we post, why is he going to read evidence from Islamic writings?
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Oh but of course, happens in skyscrapers all the time when they are hit by jumbo jets.
Yes, of course. Planes just be hitting sky scrapers ever day....
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