Rockets hitting Jerusalem - Page 19

shazeep · #**181** 07-25-2014, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

It's abundantly clear you not only view Hamas as a victim, but you support and approve of its terror tactics.

It's sadly ironic how you complain and rant on about the evil of the Rothschilds and other tin foil hat conspiracy theories...yet you support a terror organization.

I'm done.

ok, you're done, PO is done

let's all just get puffy then, shall we. I consider the accusation that i 'support' hamas the equivalent of the ad hominem attack; it is weak and baseless. What they are doing is unconscionable, even if it comes with the approval of the women and children. But that, like yours, is just another pov. Not sure about the Japanese thing, frankly--but it wouldn't surprise me if it were true. I have presidents and generals to back me up on this, guys.

i realize the leap from your pov to mine, ok? See that i got here by degrees; just like Kennedy and Smedley did--were they also 'conspiracy theorists?' This is the equivalent of sticking your head in the sand; eating, wiping your mouth, and saying you have done nothing wrong.

I'm not suggesting that you should agree with me; but i am suggesting that indoctrination is inevitable, and blessed assurance in the right of your Government is suicide. By all means, save your own lives if you dare--that's all Hamas is trying to do, after all. There would be no Hamas if there were not something their culture could rally around, and struggle against. In my pov, sadly, they at least will have an excuse. To continue bleating about how horrible they are, in the face of our overwhelming forces, is just ridiculous--you rep the largest arms dealers on the planet, let's not forget. Oh, but those are all meant for defense, right?

shazeep · #**182** 07-25-2014, 12:00 PM

and "Democratic Republic..." please. Can't think of a better way to divide you. Are you a Dem, or a Rep? Of course, we have Indy's, but no one votes for them, hmm. A vote for either D or R is a vote for satan, pure and simple. you can blather about conspiracy theory and revisionism all you like, but they even have a flag, hello. Have a nice weekend.

n david · #**183** 07-25-2014, 12:34 PM

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"They simply escape, leaving behind weapons and suicide bomb vests that were laid out for battle. This morning we stormed a position, and they just weren't there. I don't see a determined enemy. We have encountered stronger pockets of fighting in the past."

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"I have not entered one civilian home that did not have weapons, suicide belts, or booby traps in it."

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The reports of a collapse in Hamas fighters' morale lends credence to other reports that Hamas leaders were considering a temporary truce suggested by US Secy of State John Kerry.

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Since Israel already was going to accept the Egyptian cease fire, I imagine they would accept Kerry's as well; however, I wish they wouldn't. They need to completely wipe out Hamas. If this report is true and Hamas is on the run, Israel needs to pour on the offensive, not stop. Accepting a cease fire or truce will only add more years to the conflict. Bring in the tanks and bulldozers. Destroy the Hamas leader's homes and other buildings connected to Hamas. Raze Gaza, if need be to stop this once and for all.

Kerry's truce will only help Hamas regroup, which continues with this administration's theme of helping Hamas.

Pressing-On · #**184** 07-25-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

ok, PO, i apologize for responding in-kind again, but what am i to say to this? I was up at sunrise this morning, and it rose in the same place it always does, and not where you might think? Obviously, i am not a great communicator. I know you feel that you are moral, and striving to be the best person you can be, same as me--but the same can be said of Hitler. If Hamas wants Jews dead, and you want Hamas dead, then how are you any better than them? I am no terrorist sympathizer; i merely point out a different terrorist.

To me, this is how satan operates; maneuver us into a position of Righteous Vengeance. I certainly am no less guilty of the feeling than anyone. Another way of looking at it might be focusing on the symptoms, Hamas, rather than looking for the cause, which i have characterized as 'Rothschild,' but that is just a pov.

I was asked what i thought the 'solution' was, when the solution, imo, is to see that there is no solution, other than to stop the death-centered reasoning. satan's best trick is making us believe he does not exist. When it has become perfectly reasonable to want another dead, you are lost; it's as simple as that. The act of verbally defending a position is the revelation. Believe me, i feel the same way you guys do--i just realize how lame it is, and ignorant of the other side in the matter, which always exists.

I never said that I wanted Hamas dead, UNLESS, they are provoking Israel.

Do the Israeli citizens strap bombs to their bodies and enter markets or place the bombs in cars to detonate? NO!

Do the Israeli citizens lob rockets into Gaza unless provoked first? NO!

Do the Israeli citizens dig tunnels into Gaza to transport people and military supplies? NO!

Israel has, thus far, uncovered 66 shafts leading into 23 tunnels. Israel needs to take back Gaza. The Palestinians don't deserve to occupy the land.

n david · #**185** 07-25-2014, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The Palestinians don't deserve to occupy the land.

There's a reason the other Arab countries have kicked them out...

Pressing-On · #**186** 07-25-2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

There's a reason the other Arab countries have kicked them out...

Glad to hear that Israel rejected John Kerry's ceasefire today.

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BREAKING: Israel Rejected Ceasefire, Israeli Media Reporting
http://www.jspacenews.com/breaking-i...dia-reporting/

n david · #**187** 07-25-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Glad to hear that Israel rejected John Kerry's ceasefire today.

Good news!

n david · #**188** 07-25-2014, 02:26 PM

PO, did you see the video of Joan Rivers being asked about the conflict by TMZ? Her NY/NJ analogy was great!

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“Let me just tell you, if New Jersey were firing rockets into New York, we would wipe them out,” she said with her voice raised. “If we heard they were digging tunnels from New Jersey to New York, we would get rid of Jersey…. [To] the Palestinians [militants], you cannot throw rockets and expect people not to defend themselves!”