Why men hate church - Page 19

Aquila · #**181** 10-04-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

In a house church where everyone can have a different opinion and spread it around...

Are you saying that believers aren't entitled to have an opinion and to share that opinion???

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Most church groups started SMALL, yes even the Mormons at one time started as a small group

Amen. But they become centralized... build temples and then expect people to populate them and bring their money. The house church movement strives NOT to repeat the same mistakes. In fact... in Korea, China, India, and throughout the Middle East... house churches are growing exponentially. While we're struggling to maintain buildings and large campuses, making membership drives, and raffling off I-PODs to attract visitors... they are breaking bread in their homes... living and breathing NT church life.

renee819 · #**182** 10-04-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

BTW, one problem with 'contemporary worship music' is not just the lyrics (or lack thereof), but the melodies and instrumentation used. A lot of songs nowadays just SOUND like pop music or what guys would probably call 'girl music', designed to invoke sentimental gushes of emotion.

But that's a problem in society at large as well, of course.

And no I am not advocating thrash metal in church meetings.

lol

Yes! And the biggest problem is, there is no harmony in the music or the singing. I believe he world has lost it's harmony, and the church is copying it.

Could this be what God mean's when He says,

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Amos 8:3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence.

Some of the words are OK, but the music and singing sound like "howlings" to me.

Praxeas · #**183** 10-04-2013, 04:30 PM

Aquila are you saying the men that did not confront Jesus, Moses and the Apostles were not spiritually mature?

Aquila · #**184** 10-04-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Aquila are you saying the men that did not confront Jesus, Moses and the Apostles were not spiritually mature?

Was that mature???

I believe you know what I'm saying Prax.

n david · #**185** 10-04-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by renee819

Yes! And the biggest problem is, there is no harmony in the music or the singing. I believe he world has lost it's harmony, and the church is copying it.

!!!??? This is just an absurd statement. Perhaps you've lost your harmony or can't sing it, but don't say there's no harmony in church music.

renee819 · #**186** 10-04-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

!!!??? This is just an absurd statement. Perhaps you've lost your harmony or can't sing it, but don't say there's no harmony in church music.

I'll change that to, "Modern Church Music" has no harmony.

renee819 · #**187** 10-07-2013, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

!!!??? This is just an absurd statement. Perhaps you've lost your harmony or can't sing it, but don't say there's no harmony in church music.

A typical very kind statement! NOT. I believe there are many that would agree with me.

I know the music of the world, illustrates the times that we are living in. Loud, jungle beat, fast and most of the time, you can't even hear the words. (and I know, my hearing isn't what it used to be- but I can still hear normal songs and sing, normal songs) And I've been told that I have a beautiful voice and I have several times led song service.

When the church copies the fast, loud, jungle beat of the world, to me, there is no harmony.

n david · #**188** 10-07-2013, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by renee819

A typical very kind statement! NOT. I believe there are many that would agree with me.

I know the music of the world, illustrates the times that we are living in. Loud, jungle beat, fast and most of the time, you can't even hear the words. (and I know, my hearing isn't what it used to be- but I can still hear normal songs and sing, normal songs) And I've been told that I have a beautiful voice and I have several times led song service.

When the church copies the fast, loud, jungle beat of the world, to me, there is no harmony.

Jungle beat???

houston · #**189** 10-07-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

Jungle beat???

yeah. No idea...

n david · #**190** 10-07-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by renee819

A typical very kind statement! NOT. I believe there are many that would agree with me.

I know the music of the world, illustrates the times that we are living in. Loud, jungle beat, fast and most of the time, you can't even hear the words. (and I know, my hearing isn't what it used to be- but I can still hear normal songs and sing, normal songs) And I've been told that I have a beautiful voice and I have several times led song service.

When the church copies the fast, loud, jungle beat of the world, to me, there is no harmony.

What do you mean by "Jungle" beat? I looked up "jungle beat" on Google and the results I get are for "Donkey Kong." What do you mean by "jungle beat?" Define it, please.

Not sure what church you've been to which had songs as you described. A lot of the modern church music right now has a slow to moderate beat. Eight of the current top 10 CCLI worship songs are slow/moderate.