The Real Delegate Count - it's not over

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by CC1

The only way we won't have enough policemen, firemen, or teachers is if we keep an ultra liberal Democrat as President who will do his best to prop up the unions who make unreasonable demands that can't be funded over the long haul and thus jeopordize a community's ability to hire enough of those civil servants.

Just look at how the Obama directed National Labor Relations Board tried to come down on Boeing for building a new airplane assembly plant in a right to work state. They accused Boeing of "punishing" the Washington state unions that hold Boeing hostage every few years with strikes until they get what they want in raises and benefits. Instead of understanding that they were forcing Boeing to expand in a different area where this threat would not be hanging over it's corporate head they tried to act like Boeing was doing something wrong.

Boeing is just a bunch of racists! (TIC)

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints



We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.


We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.


We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.


We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.


We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.


We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.


We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.


We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.


We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.


We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.


We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.


We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.


We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Why don't you go back and find out how they believe God came to be. At the outset, it sets up a contradiction to the Bible, regardless of how many times they write God in their articles of faith.

They believe that God, who created the universe, was himself a created being. That's as far as I need to go with Mormonism.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.

And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

Commentators agree that Jesus is referring to a disciple of John the Baptist or one of the seventy whom Jesus sent out and who was not following closely with John. And by following closely, I don't mean not following closely on doctrine. That is hardly in line with bringing in a group who believes God was a created being and that the Bible needs correction. I believe you are taking the passage out of context.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

I don't have doubts about Romney being an American. BO I have serious doubts about.

Your fight would then be with the Republicans, who have endorsed Romney, and also denounce the thought that O was not born in America.

My disagreement is not only over Mormonism, but the touting of his "job creation" credentials, which seem to be off limits as they are attacking the free market. Bogus argument because, this is fact:

Former Reagan budget director David Stockman went off message on Fox News while commenting about Mitt Romney's business experience.

Said Stockman: "I don't think that Mitt Romney can legitimately say that he learned anything about how to create jobs in the LBO business. The LBO business is about how to strip cash out of old, long-in-the-tooth companies and how to make short-term profits...All the jobs that he talks about came from Staples. That was a very early venture stage deal. That, you know they got out of long before it got to its current size."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/20...eate_jobs.html

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by CC1

The only way we won't have enough policemen, firemen, or teachers is if we keep an ultra liberal Democrat as President who will do his best to prop up the unions who make unreasonable demands that can't be funded over the long haul and thus jeopordize a community's ability to hire enough of those civil servants.

Just look at how the Obama directed National Labor Relations Board tried to come down on Boeing for building a new airplane assembly plant in a right to work state. They accused Boeing of "punishing" the Washington state unions that hold Boeing hostage every few years with strikes until they get what they want in raises and benefits. Instead of understanding that they were forcing Boeing to expand in a different area where this threat would not be hanging over it's corporate head they tried to act like Boeing was doing something wrong.

Thank you. This is Scott Walker's argument and fight. Walker also pointed out that "IF" Romney had that same argument, he would do well. It is just that Romney doesn't make the salient points and leaves you wondering what exactly it is he really believes and plans to do.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Thank you. This is Scott Walker's argument and fight. Walker also pointed out that "IF" Romney had that same argument, he would do well. It is just that Romney doesn't make the salient points and leaves you wondering what exactly it is he really believes and plans to do.

So you are doubting that Romney is a "severe" conservative as he stated? LOL!!

Question - After Romney wins the nomination on the first ballot will you then start a thread titled "The Real Nominee" about how some obscure rules of order means that Newton or Santorum REALLY are the nominee? (you know I am just picking PO. This subject has just been too much fun!!!!)

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by CC1

So you are doubting that Romney is a "severe" conservative as he stated? LOL!!

Well, my friend, your first clue should be that anyone having to include "severe" in a conversation about conservatism is having a hard time selling the idea.

Here' your sign!

Question - After Romney wins the nomination on the first ballot will you then start a thread titled "The Real Nominee" about how some obscure rules of order means that Newton or Santorum REALLY are the nominee? (you know I am just picking PO. This subject has just been too much fun!!!!)

LOL! I take you all in stride, Si, Se, Uno.

Seriously, you know I've never said I didn't think ORomney would be our nominee. It's been a hard election cycle and I just wanted a little action in Tampa. You can't fault me for that.

After he wins on the first ballot, we can change the thread to, "I Told you so". I will begin with this article.

Republican Surrenderists for Obamacare

Where does presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney stand? Despite repeated assurances that he will abandon Obamacare in its entirety, Romney is surrounded by GOP socialized medicine helpmates. In January, Romney adviser Norm Coleman said, "(We're) not going to repeal the act in its entirety ... you can't whole cloth throw it out."

Earlier this month, Romney named former Utah GOP Gov. Mike Leavitt his transition leader. Leavitt supports and has profited handsomely from Obamacare's health care exchange mandate. Then there's the Romneycare mandate in Massachusetts, conceived by Obamacare architect and MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, which includes the very same slacker mandate provision enshrined in the Democrats' law.

Who needs enemies when you've got Republican Surrenderists for Obamacare waiting in the wings?

http://townhall.com/columnists/miche...amacare/page/2

And before Scot-tay posts how favorable he is to keeping some of Obamacare, I hope he pays attention to this portion of the article:

In case you hadn't heard, even if the Supreme Court overturns the progressives' federal health care juggernaut, prominent GOP leaders vow to preserve its most "popular" provisions. These big-government Republicans show appalling indifference to the dire market disruptions and culture of dependency that Obamacare schemes have wrought.

[Pressing-On]

Looks like the RNC is going to appease the Paul supporters who are ticked over Rand endorsing Romney by allowing them their 3-day festival before the convention. That's still not going to make them rally behind Romney.

RNC gives blessing to Paul rally after Rand endorsement

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/13/rn...#ixzz1xgRztMgL

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

PO - if you had two choices for religion, BHO's or Mitt's which one would you pick?

PO - you missed answering this question.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

PO - you missed answering this question.

Being a Christian, I thought that was simple - I don't pick either one.