Amen, Bro. I have seen families leave without receiving or taking that advice and end up with more discontentment. They trade one set of circumstances for another... when they can't find a church that teaches or preaches their basic apostolic beliefs. They either compromise or quit attending church altogether. Very sad.
Rose
Compromise is not what I worry about. To a right wing concervitive anything away from what they believe would be compromise. When it is only comming to the understanding that what one was taught was false. To quit attending a church can be more detrimental than anything else. We need fellowship of one another. Which is why Paul said that we should not forsake the assembling of ourselves together. Although I don't believe he ment church as we know it today. Getting together in a home bible study is just as good as a church service.
__________________
Study the word with and open heart For if you do, Truth Will Prevail
My husband is very set on the old paths. He told me tonight "Just do what you want, but I don't agree." It breaks my heart.
I don't understand. Why would the Lord show me something just so that it could make my life miserable and cause problems in my marriage? But I see things so clearly now.
I don't believe that the holiness standards are biblical. I don't agree with how people are treated in UPC churches when they don't follow them. I don't like the control and fear tactics that I see. I believe that we are basing our salvation on our works when we enforce such standards. No, I don't believe this is right.
Are these reasons enough to leave my current church? I don't know...and I don't want to move forward in any way without my husband, but he is digging his heels in and refusing to budge.
I'm trying so hard to be patient, but I don't know if I can do this.
You are not going to like my advice.
Submit to your husband to please God. That includes conforming to the traditions of your church even though you don't believe that they are biblical.
Submit with a good attitude. Humble yourself and obey God's will and not your own will in this matter.
Be patient and continue to pray for your husband that God will open his heart to the truth.
Continue to study these things out in the Bible so you will have an answer why you believe what you believe. A good, solid Bible-based answer. But do your best to discuss your beliefs with love and meekness.
May God give you grace and peace during this difficult time.
__________________
His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
My husband is very set on the old paths. He told me tonight "Just do what you want, but I don't agree." It breaks my heart.
I don't understand. Why would the Lord show me something just so that it could make my life miserable and cause problems in my marriage? But I see things so clearly now.
I don't believe that the holiness standards are biblical. I don't agree with how people are treated in UPC churches when they don't follow them. I don't like the control and fear tactics that I see. I believe that we are basing our salvation on our works when we enforce such standards. No, I don't believe this is right.
Are these reasons enough to leave my current church? I don't know...and I don't want to move forward in any way without my husband, but he is digging his heels in and refusing to budge.
I'm trying so hard to be patient, but I don't know if I can do this.
It's amazingly easy for men to be strict and traditional on standards. I mean, how does it effect them? Is THEIR salvation judged by their hair length? Are they called Jezebels for wanting to look nice? Are they forced to try and exercise while wearing a skirt?
Submit to your husband to please God. That includes conforming to the traditions of your church even though you don't believe that they are biblical.
Submit with a good attitude. Humble yourself and obey God's will and not your own will in this matter.
Be patient and continue to pray for your husband that God will open his heart to the truth.
Continue to study these things out in the Bible so you will have an answer why you believe what you believe. A good, solid Bible-based answer. But do your best to discuss your beliefs with love and meekness.
May God give you grace and peace during this difficult time.
Yes, I know... I may not like that bit of advice, but it's what I need to do, and deep down I know that. It feels a bit overwhelming at times tho...I have to admit.
__________________
"If you're riding ahead of the herd, take a look back every now and then to make sure it's still there."
It's amazingly easy for men to be strict and traditional on standards. I mean, how does it effect them? Is THEIR salvation judged by their hair length? Are they called Jezebels for wanting to look nice? Are they forced to try and exercise while wearing a skirt?
Sorry, the heathen feminist rant is now complete.
No, no, and no...
It does seem a bit unfair towards women, doesn't it? Like we're being punished or something? hmmm...
__________________
"If you're riding ahead of the herd, take a look back every now and then to make sure it's still there."
My husband is very set on the old paths. He told me tonight "Just do what you want, but I don't agree." It breaks my heart.
Here is your door if you want to take it.
Quote:
I don't understand. Why would the Lord show me something just so that it could make my life miserable and cause problems in my marriage? But I see things so clearly now.
Have you forgoten the prophet Hosea? You must be stronger than you think you are for God to put you in this position. Here is the thing you must be well studied on everthing to go up against the best that satan has to bring your way. "study to show thyself aproved" Much of my time in the years before leaving was in subtule discution with others checking my thoughts with the thoughts of others. Many times this opens others eyes too.
Quote:
I don't believe that the holiness standards are biblical. I don't agree with how people are treated in UPC churches when they don't follow them. I don't like the control and fear tactics that I see. I believe that we are basing our salvation on our works when we enforce such standards. No, I don't believe this is right.
Unless you are wording this wrong, to just not believe that the standards are wrong is not good enough. You must know that they are extra biblical just as the traditions of the pharisee were.
Quote:
Are these reasons enough to leave my current church? I don't know...and I don't want to move forward in any way without my husband, but he is digging his heels in and refusing to budge.
Don't leave yet start your road to liberty and fight where you are before going to a differant church. Because remember it will be awhile before your husband sees and comes your way. There is a couple in my parents church, she wears pants and makeup and cuts her hair but she still comes with her husband and worships God. I just noticed this on Mothers day. As I went to support my mother on mothers day, as she just lost one of her sisters.
Quote:
I'm trying so hard to be patient, but I don't know if I can do this.
You can do it!!!
__________________
Study the word with and open heart For if you do, Truth Will Prevail
Submit to your husband to please God. That includes conforming to the traditions of your church even though you don't believe that they are biblical.
Submit with a good attitude. Humble yourself and obey God's will and not your own will in this matter.
Be patient and continue to pray for your husband that God will open his heart to the truth.
Continue to study these things out in the Bible so you will have an answer why you believe what you believe. A good, solid Bible-based answer. But do your best to discuss your beliefs with love and meekness.
May God give you grace and peace during this difficult time.
Good advice with one exception. If her husband alows her some leway concerning the standards of the church she can let that go abit. After all she is in submition to her husband not her pastor.
Eph 5:22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
__________________
Study the word with and open heart For if you do, Truth Will Prevail
It's amazingly easy for men to be strict and traditional on standards. I mean, how does it effect them? Is THEIR salvation judged by their hair length? Are they called Jezebels for wanting to look nice? Are they forced to try and exercise while wearing a skirt?
Sorry, the heathen feminist rant is now complete.
Hey, us guys had it rough, too! We had to .... uh, ... uh......... OK, gimme a minute.
__________________
Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
Linear Mode
