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04-25-2007, 03:42 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Simply complimenting him on presenting his version of truth.
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Whats your version?
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04-25-2007, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
intellectually honest.
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That is an oxymoron and you know it... 
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04-25-2007, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Whats your version?
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Truth is truth.
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04-25-2007, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
He can't use the word remission as translated by the KJV ... because with exception of one time in the NT [not Acts 2:38]... aphesis is used synonymously for forgiveness and remission ... forgiveness is remisssion ... remission is forgiveness ... but some would want remission to mean "washed away" |
I would suggest that the word used in Acts 2:38 and most other places (except for Romans 3:25) should never be translated "remission" and that the word used in Romans 3:25 is correctly translated "remission."
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04-25-2007, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chan
I would suggest that the word used in Acts 2:38 and most other places (except for Romans 3:25) should never be translated "remission" and that the word used in Romans 3:25 is correctly translated "remission." |
Other translations properly use the word forgiveness ... it's amazing how an entire movement has strayed from truth based on a misinterpretation of scriptural translation.
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04-25-2007, 03:48 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Truth is truth.
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To which I agree, but you've implied that Acteons truth wasn't necessarily yours. The clue that gave that away was when you posted "his version", which implies that it isn't yours.
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04-25-2007, 03:48 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shreveport, LA
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
You go ACTEON ... great copy and paste job from the 'new' water and spirit doctrine theologians.
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Whats wrong with it?
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It's truth and light. It hurts and causes pain in darkness.
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- And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
- Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
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04-25-2007, 03:49 PM
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but made himself of no reputation
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: middle Atlantic region
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bump for JTULLOCK...
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
IYO. And your opinion is wrong, brother. We can not and will not explain away any verse. Any of you have yet to give a valid reason on why sins would not be forgiven when someone receives the HG before baptism. Not even a fair answer has been given. Now lets see who explains away scripture
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Posted by Mizpeh
Do you have a scripture that states sins are remitted when one receives the Holy Ghost? or when one believes in the gospel?
If you believe as Daniel does, that faith alone in Christ alone saves you, then you must also believe that you receive the Spirit of Christ and remission of sins upon faith and that Acts 2:38 is extra stuff we do after we are saved. Is that what you believe?
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Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath [James 1:19]
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04-25-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
To which I agree, but you've implied that Acteons truth wasn't necessarily yours. The clue that gave that away was when you posted "his version", which implies that it isn't yours.
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I'm not DA but viewing Truth is not actually the Truth...
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04-25-2007, 03:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
He can't use the word remission as translated by the KJV ... because with exception of one time in the NT [not Acts 2:38]... aphesis is used synonymously for forgiveness and remission ... forgiveness is remisssion ... remission is forgiveness ... but some would want remission to mean "washed away" |
I'm one who tends to agree with you, Danny.
The problem is, according to Acts 2:38, you still must "repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" for the forgiveness of sins.
What say ye?
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- And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
- Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
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