How about unisex clothing... pants on women, dresses on men ? I will agree with Bro. Stoneking that churches that start these things do NOT become more spiritual.
I'm Ind. but I NEVER thought Larry Smith would allow these things.
These ideas, I think, are traditional and not biblical. LS agrees. Way back when, clothes for men CHANGED in culture and men started wearing Robes. Women continued wearing robe-like dresses, and still do today. But we see a change that has happened decades ago where women wear pants now. It is no different a change than men starting to wear pants way back. I am not condoning immodesty, though. There are modest pants as much as there are immodest dresses. The bible does not teach women cannot wear pants. If anyone is against women wearing pants, then they better also be against men wearing pants since that is simply a change of custom in culture, and if one is accepted the other should be as well. That is not saying we accept cultural changes in custom that are antibiblical. But it is saying men changing from robes to pants is no different than modern day women changing from dresses to pants.
I disagree with Bro Stoneking on many issues. He said he felt a "presence" from a rabbi who has a public website saying that Jesus is a false messiah. There was a "presence" alright, but not of God.
Anyway, this thread is not about traditional "standards". That can be dealt with in another thread.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
These ideas, I think, are traditional and not biblical. LS agrees. Way back when, clothes for men CHANGED in culture and men started wearing Robes. Women continued wearing robe-like dresses, and still do today. But we see a change that has happened decades ago where women wear pants now. It is no different a change than men starting to wear pants way back. I am not condoning immodesty, though. There are modest pants as much as there are immodest dresses. The bible does not teach women cannot wear pants. If anyone is against women wearing pants, then they better also be against men wearing pants since that is simply a change of custom in culture, and if one is accepted the other should be as well. That is not saying we accept cultural changes in custom that are antibiblical. But it is saying men changing from robes to pants is no different than modern day women changing from dresses to pants.
I disagree with Bro Stoneking on many issues. He said he felt a "presence" from a rabbi who has a public website saying that Jesus is a false messiah. There was a "presence" alright, but not of God.
Anyway, this thread is not about traditional "standards". That can be dealt with in another thread.
Did he SAY that it was a good spiritual prescence?
We do well to remember that NO MAN has it all correct.
NONE, not one.
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Did he SAY that it was a good spiritual prescence?
He had tears in the pic showing him beside this rabbi.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
He had tears in the pic showing him beside this rabbi.
Hmmmm...tears of joy, tears of pain (arm twist? )
or tears of sadness? Probably couldn't tell, eh? I guess
I'd have to have seen it., and/or been there.
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Well here's an excerpt [from the link Jeffrey gave] from it that I found interesting (I never knew this) but moreso disgusting:
Quote:
..Bible verses which seem to prohibit homosexuality have actually been yanked out of context from their original meaning, or that they only applied to the culture existing at the time they were written. .."Biblical judgments about homosexuality are not relevant to today's debate."
I AM SHOCKED! Unbelievable that proponents of gay christianity (yeah right) use the same arguments or attempted rationalizations to support their claims., that the anti-standards camp use, to explain why they don't believe in so-called 'holiness' outer wear standards..hmmmm, perhaps they {the AntiSt.crowd} have more in common with them than we could have ever imagined, or is it merely coincidence?
*just kiddin*
Nevertheless,
WHAT A DARK/DARKER world this is becoming! JESUS must definitely weep
over this., my goodness!
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