That verse has been misused by many in the charismatic circles to have "Pure" adultery, fornication and etc. I would stay away from that verse to justify what you are wanting to do, whatever that might be!
Just because we question the looks of a situation like you are describing does not mean that we all have dirty minds, maybe Scotty excluded. We just have been around the block and know that if it looks like a skunk, walks like a skunk, smells like a skunk, it's probably a skunk!
Just ask Ron! He knows this lesson VERY well
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I think that any two people, same or opposite sex, who want to co-habitate in a non-sexual relationship should do so, without telling, and being fully aware that should anything be said...then she will pay the higher price; just like fraternization in a place of employment, or like in the case of fornication or adultery. Men are blameless under society and UC-Biblical standards. I am not sure why God even bothered to create women unless he understood the need for men to have a punching bag to blame all their shortcomings on.
This is absolutely the saddest statement I've ever heard you make, Rhoni. I cannnot believe that you honestly think that God created women for men to have a punching bag to blame all their shortcomings on. Do you understand what that says about your view of GOD? Sad, just sad.
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I think that any two people, same or opposite sex, who want to co-habitate in a non-sexual relationship should do so, without telling, and being fully aware that should anything be said...then she will pay the higher price; just like fraternization in a place of employment, or like in the case of fornication or adultery.
Without telling? Why not tell? If it's fine, then it's fine. If not, then don't do it. Personally, I would advise my children against--or my sisters for that matter. My nephews especially, because I KNOW what their minds would be on, whether the girl's was or not.
Women ought to be concerned with their own reputations, even if it is unfair or unequal. I wouldn't want people in our community having any reason to think I believe cohabitation, or, "shacking up" is acceptable. What I do reflects on Christ.
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Men are blameless under society and UC-Biblical standards. I am not sure why God even bothered to create women unless he understood the need for men to have a punching bag to blame all their shortcomings on.
Men are not blameless. That is ridiculous. Not in society, and especially not under UC Biblical standards.
Good grief. Either you are way over sensitive or every man in your life has been the devil himself. I can't even identify with the way you think sometimes. A punching bag? My husband doesn't blame his shortcomings on me. And even if he did, I wouldn't let him. I'm stronger than that, and I can stand toe-to-toe with someone and defend myself if I NEED to.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
This is absolutely the saddest statement I've ever heard you make, Rhoni. I cannnot believe that you honestly think that God created women for men to have a punching bag to blame all their shortcomings on. Do you understand what that says about your view of GOD? Sad, just sad.
I know! First of all, God's plan is definitely the best one ever!!!! And secondly, Jeff doesn't use me as his punching bag. Literally or figuratively.
It makes me sad to think that Rhoni really feels that way about men. They are God's creation just like women, and have a wonderful, divine purpose. I can't imagine how empty our home would be without my husband and the kids' father. How lacking in structure and masculinity and strong-armed hugs and rough play outside and deep bellows when the kids get out of line and sweet, over-the-top gifts when he's done something wrong and repairing bicycles and the person I want to pray for me when I'm sick and....I could go on and on.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Let's put this in perspective. Adam blamed Eve for his own sin. When men are sinful, they blame women for their issues. When men are good, they take responsibility for themselves. So, there is some truth to what Rhoni was saying and should perhaps be taken more as a lament than an actual statement meant for meaning.
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Let's put this in perspective. Adam blamed Eve for his own sin. When men are sinful, they blame women for their issues. When men are good, they take responsibility for themselves. So, there is some truth to what Rhoni was saying and should perhaps be taken more as a lament than an actual statement meant for meaning.
So I'm going to take your post to mean that sinful men blame women for their issues--but Christian men don't, or shouldn't.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
So I'm going to take your post to mean that sinful men blame women for their issues--but Christian men don't, or shouldn't.
Yes, I think that is pretty accurate. I would even go so far as to say good men don't blame women for their issues and bad men do. Actually, that is probably more accurate than dividing between Christian and non-Christian men.
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When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
One thing I noticed in working with domestically abused women, it can turn your brains inside out. Sometimes, the world looks pretty bad. I imagine that could happen with counseling.
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
First of all, God's plan is definitely the best one ever!!!! And secondly, Jeff doesn't use me as his punching bag. Literally or figuratively. 
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