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Old 04-03-2007, 01:45 PM
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I don't know Carlton Pearson, nor have I studied what he believes.

He believes the doctrine of inclusion is that what you believe ?
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I still haven't got an answer regarding the Apostles Doctrine. We are supposed to continue in it (the doctrine) to stay saved?

So what is it? We've heard a few that aren't it...

Does continuing in the Apostle's doctrine mean not teaching outside of it? And if doctrines are taught outside of it that separate one form Bros and Sis or cut off Bros and Sis does that count as a false doctrine that will ........ the church? Why or why not?
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:48 PM
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One false doctrine that will ........ the church is that if a woman cuts her hair she is lost eternally.

It will ........ the church because there are so few women who don't (cut their hair I mean) resulting in very few women being saved.

women trimming their hair in the UPC is almost becoming common. now I'm not here to argue the hair doctrine I'm only saying that the younger generation slowly changing the culture.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:09 PM
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I still haven't got an answer regarding the Apostles Doctrine. We are supposed to continue in it (the doctrine) to stay saved?

So what is it? We've heard a few that aren't it...

Does continuing in the Apostle's doctrine mean not teaching outside of it? And if doctrines are taught outside of it that separate one form Bros and Sis or cut off Bros and Sis does that count as a false doctrine that will ........ the church? Why or why not?
Hi,Doctrine is an other word that means teaching.You must continue in all their teachings.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:16 PM
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women trimming their hair in the UPC is almost becoming common. now I'm not here to argue the hair doctrine I'm only saying that the younger generation slowly changing the culture.
Hi, Paul sais if a woman is not going to be vailed when praying and prophesying then she should cut her hair too.Not cutting your hair and being vailed shows your in subjection to your husband as the word teaches your to be.The thing is most woman are not in subject to their husband or don't vail themselves when they pray and prophecy so why would anyone think they wouldn't cut their hair either?

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Old 04-03-2007, 02:19 PM
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Hi, Paul sais if a woman is not going to be vailed when praying and prophesying the she should cut her hair too.Not cutting your hair and being vailed your in subjection to your husband as the word teaches your to be.The thing is most woman are not in subject to their husband or don't vail themselves when they pray and prophecy so why would anyone think they wouldn't cut their hair either?
O boy. that's a whole different thread my friend.
are you from the Spanish Apostolic assembly background by any chance ?
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:24 PM
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Serpent Seed synopsis for Felicity,

The serpent in the garden was a. the missing link able to talk and walk and commit adultery with Eve which he did. She was expecting with Cain had relations with Adam in which she concieved again with Abel the were twins by different fathers. Cain since he was the son of the Serpent(devil) his offspring are predestined to be lost. Adam again knew his wife from which came Seth his line is predestined to be saved. A serpent seed will NOT accept the prophet of their age. Only the elect the godly seed will recieve the prophet of their age thus the Branhamites are the righteous seed. There are many variations and 'revelations' but this is it in a nut shell.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:29 PM
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Serpent Seed synopsis for Felicity,

The serpent in the garden was a. the missing link able to talk and walk and commit adultery with Eve which he did. She was expecting with Cain had relations with Adam in which she concieved again with Abel the were twins by different fathers. Cain since he was the son of the Serpent(devil) his offspring are predestined to be lost. Adam again knew his wife from which came Seth his line is predestined to be saved. A serpent seed will NOT accept the prophet of their age. Only the elect the godly seed will recieve the prophet of their age thus the Branhamites are the righteous seed. There are many variations and 'revelations' but this is it in a nut shell.
So, Do calvinist also believe in the serpant seed doctrine ???

Epley, i might add that even those who don't accept Braham as the "Prophet", if they have family who are Branhamites they will still be saved because they are still considered to be of righteous seed.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:32 PM
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So, Do calvinist also believe in the serpant seed doctrine ???

Epley, i might add that even those who don't accept Braham as the "Prophet", if they have family who are Branhamites they will still be saved because they are still considered to be of righteous seed.
No Branham wove Calvinism into his doctrine. The last question will never be answered because it cannot be answered not and make any sense at all.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:34 PM
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Serpent Seed synopsis for Felicity,

The serpent in the garden was a. the missing link able to talk and walk and commit adultery with Eve which he did. She was expecting with Cain had relations with Adam in which she concieved again with Abel the were twins by different fathers. Cain since he was the son of the Serpent(devil) his offspring are predestined to be lost. Adam again knew his wife from which came Seth his line is predestined to be saved. A serpent seed will NOT accept the prophet of their age. Only the elect the godly seed will recieve the prophet of their age thus the Branhamites are the righteous seed. There are many variations and 'revelations' but this is it in a nut shell.
The reason I asked for this is because these people come into Blessings where I work all the time.

The other day this woman dropped off these business cards advertising the new website. I didn't see her at all because I was busy with another customer. But afterward one of the girls working with me showed me the card and said that the woman said something to her about knowing that "you all are religious ... but you need to check this out".

So Gina (my co-worker) asked me what this was about and wanted to check out the website. I had no idea - you couldn't tell from the little business card that it was about Branhamism.

Anyhow, then of course the questions came. Who are these people? When I told them and described them then of course they knew who I was talking about.

The thing is sometimes it's hard to not tell them apart from the UPCers who come into the store occasionally and I want the girls I work with to know the difference and not be thinking the UPCers are Branhamites.

And of course I tried to explain a little about what they believe. I just wanted to make sure that I know what I'm telling them is right.
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