Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

I Think my screen name very clearly answers this question for me

Aww, that is so cute, honey.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

Yeah, right. And you live on what planet?

I don't see the rest of the Body of Christ debating this non-issue. When's the last time you have seen a mainstream org or denomination debate this ...

It's an issue to just a few of us.

Time to move on to true Holiness.

[Pressing-On]

Well, now that we are taking a derogatory downturn - I'm out.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Its only an issue for a small segment of OP believers, Mennonites, Amish, FLDs, utracon Baptists, etc.

The rest of the Body of Christ has move beyond this petty issue.

It's hard for me to believe that I once thought this was an important issue. This is such a non-issue, I would never raise my daughter to think that she has to wear a dress to please God. For those that do hold to this, does that apply in your home as well?

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I don't see the rest of the Body of Christ debating this non-issue. When's last time you have seen a mainstream org or denomination debate this ...

It's an issue to just a few of us.

Time to move on the true Holiness.

Sheesh Daniel, get over it. I didn't know anyone debated this til I came to AFF. I have some issues but what I or anyone else wears is not one of them.

Be nice to your elder anyway, that would be true Holiness right?

[My Own Eyes]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

CC1,
When I worked behind the cosmetic counter - Barton Creek mall - Austin (lol) I found that most women wished they didn't have to fool with all of that but society forces it on them.

That aggravates me to no end.

Most of the men I've dated didn't really care if I wore it or not. My first husband, before I got in church, told me once - "I wish you would stop dressing, everyday, like we are going to the opera!!!"

I have no problem with makeup at all, but most of the time don't mess with it. I get just as irritated at the "Women are ugly without makeup" crowd as I do with the "No makeup, you Jezebel!" crowd.

I work in a casual environment, and one day a few summers ago I was wearing flip-flops, and my boss make a smart alleck comment "If you are going to make us look at your toes, you could at least put polish on them"

I turned and gave him "the look" (The one that would make my husband run away at breakneck speed) and said "Excuse me? Do you were polish on your toes?"

To which my male boss of course answered "no"

to which I continued "So, are you implying that my toes in their natural state are somehow deficient, and are in need of polish to make them sufficiently viewable?"

(says he)..."uhhhhh....ummmmm..."

(I continue) "And that your toes are someone completely acceptable in their natural state, simply because you WERE BORN A MAN, AND I A WOMAN???"

At which point he got a really scared look on his face and started backing away. Would you believe he has never again made any reference to toe-nail polish or makeup of any kind, ever again?

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I don't see the rest of the Body of Christ debating this non-issue. When's the last time you have seen a mainstream org or denomination debate this ...

It's an issue to just a few of us.

Time to move on to true Holiness.

Yeah...they've moved on to debating weightier matters, like whether to ordain homosexuals.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

I have no problem with makeup at all, but most of the time don't mess with it. I get just as irritated at the "Women are ugly without makeup" crowd as I do with the "No makeup, you Jezebel!" crowd.

I work in a casual environment, and one day a few summers ago I was wearing flip-flops, and my boss make a smart alleck comment "If you are going to make us look at your toes, you could at least put polish on them"

I turned and gave him "the look" (The one that would make my husband run away at breakneck speed) and said "Excuse me? Do you were polish on your toes?"

To which my male boss of course answered "no"

to which I continued "So, are you implying that my toes in their natural state are somehow deficient, and are in need of polish to make them sufficiently viewable?"

(says he)..."uhhhhh....ummmmm..."

(I continue) "And that your toes are someone completely acceptable in their natural state, simply because you WERE BORN A MAN, AND I A WOMAN???"

At which point he got a really scared look on his face and started backing away. Would you believe he has never again made any reference to toe-nail polish or makeup of any kind, ever again?

You make a good point. You see the world pushes a standard on women too! And that one is far more egregious to women than what the UPC is doing, IMO.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

It's hard for me to believe that I once thought this was an important issue. This is such a non-issue, I would never raise my daughter to think that she has to wear a dress to please God. For those that do hold to this, does that apply in your home as well?

I have 2 daughters and they are young. They get their hair cut and were kids clothing -- like pink pants -- something my boys would never wear. Trust me my daughters could not be mistaken for boys.

If I were I woman, I would not want to dress that way. So I do not and will not place on my daughters what I think are unneeded traditions of men.

To all those who practice it, please understand I am not trying to demean your beliefs. I just have experience first hand how traditions of men can damage people's faith.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Amos

Yeah...they've moved on to debating weightier matters, like whether to ordain homosexuals.

Okay, that was a good one!!