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View Poll Results: Will you report an Illegal Alien?
YES 13 41.94%
No 13 41.94%
Yes, but scared too. 1 3.23%
I do not know 4 12.90%
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:01 PM
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Uh ... once again you fail to comparmentalize ... no one is advocating open borders ... I'm the first to say seal them up ... this then leaves us w/ the issue of what to do with the moral and ethical question of what we do w/ those who are here and have helped shape our economy ... contributing to our tax system and are will to take a path to legal citizenship ...

and whether or not It's the CHRISTIAN THING TO PLAY COP ... W/ every sinner that comes through the church's door.
As much as this pains me to say, DA is right. He did already advocate sealing up our borders and in past discussions his focus has been what to do with those already here
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:04 PM
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I wonder how many of you even realize that there is a plan in the works and being implemented right now to do with Canada, US and Mexico what they did with borders and currency in the EU.....

Pretty soon this discussion will be out dated
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:05 PM
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As much as this pains me to say, DA is right. He did already advocate sealing up our borders and in past discussions his focus has been what to do with those already here
I may change my mind depending on how much tithe an illegal immigrant gives into the church I pastor.
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:09 PM
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I may change my mind depending on how much tithe an illegal immigrant gives into the church I pastor.
I bet you would

BTW why do we even need to know if someone is here illegally in our churches? Are we now the gestapo? It's bad enough for there to be Pastors that want to come to your home to inspect for TVs.....but now we have to get a background check to see if they are in the country legally or we won't minister to them?
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:11 PM
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Brother, I'm Hispanic, and I am aggravated with all the Hispanic illegals coming to this country. The very least they can do is learn English. I am more compassionate towards those who want to make a life for themselves here and take steps towards getting legal.
I know you're Hispanic, I was just pointing out the reason Darcie made a statement to which you responded. I agree w/you, but that doesn't give anyone the right to be ugly about "one" specific group. I was trying to point out her sentiment and wasn't sure if you understood why she posted what she did, thats all brother.
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:17 PM
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There are people here who's flying probably is their air flight to General Conference or perhaps a visitation to a family member in Texas.....they need to cross our borders and take a flight abroad in order to have a better worldview and understand better...
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:23 PM
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While you're driving thank the Lord for the illegals that paved the roads and built the highways.

And thank God ... Coop didn't report them.
um, when did the illegals pave the roads and build the highways??

Illegals don't work for Cal Trans, ha. Dunno who built your hwys..
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:24 PM
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I wonder how many of you even realize that there is a plan in the works and being implemented right now to do with Canada, US and Mexico what they did with borders and currency in the EU.....

Pretty soon this discussion will be out dated
We should have annexed Mexico when Winfield Scott was down there. I know that sounds Imperialistic - but think of the practical benefits. First of all, we wouldn't be having this argument now.

Next, half of American English vocabulary would be Spanish words. The food would be a lot better up North (Lutkefish or Tamales? No doubt! Tamales!). We'd have had a Hispanic presidenté or two by now. And the explotative Mexican economy would have OSHA, EPA and Reaganomic free trade to benefit from. Everybody's a winner.

And maybe ReformedDave's team could pick up a right hander so he's not sitting at home wondering what it's like to be me!
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:29 PM
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There are people here who's flying probably is their air flight to General Conference or perhaps a visitation to a family member in Texas.....they need to cross our borders and take a flight abroad in order to have a better worldview and understand better...
Gee, I wonder who you are talking about?

Dude, I HAVE been to a third world country.









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Old 10-13-2007, 06:41 PM
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I am kinda surprised by some folks responses... I thought our mission as the church of Jesus Christ was to minister to PEOPLE.. regardless of their legal status... my former church had a least one illegal, i know for a fact he was, thank God we didn't turn him and his family away... I am not in support of illegal immigration but our mission should be to save souls, regardless, period!
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