Uuh Ooh!!! Is Paula White's Ministry Unraveling??? Read This!!! - Page 18

Evang.Benincasa · #**171** 06-03-2007, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley

The statement of faith on the Without Walls website is now very trinitarian... and they no longer baptize in Jesus' name!! They baptize in the titles, according to the site!! I am very disappointed!!!

I thought as much Brother, but I will still call them Monday.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Thad · #**172** 06-03-2007, 07:42 AM

I believe that randy is from the Pentecostal Church of God background which is TrinitarianPentecostal. when was Church without walls ever a Oneness church ? I don't think it was. Randy white attended Lee College which is the COG college.

It's going tobe interesting to see how he is supposedly going to pastor a church in L.A(malibu)?? while she is in Tampa??? interesting

South of I 90 · #**173** 06-03-2007, 08:25 AM

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It's going tobe interesting to see how he is supposedly going to pastor a church in L.A(malibu)?? while she is in Tampa??? interesting

If Paul and Jan can live seperately why can't the Whites?!

Jack Shephard · #**174** 06-03-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Anyone can learn to preach a certain style and do it from the bible. Natural talents DO come from God but even Louis Farrakan can preach!

If I saw someone growing IN "this movement" (whatever that is) and not rather reaching more souls...because HIs kingdom growing is what we are supposed to be about and not OUR kingdom growing, I would feel the same way. Simply growing in numbers is NOT true Kingdom Growing....gaining membership is NOT true Spiritual growth. Gaining wealth is NOT true Spiritual growth. converting the lost is growth...

If the POAs grow..that means nothing to me. But if the POA are genuinely reaching sinners and converting them to Christ...that is growth.

BTW I never said Randy did NOT have anointing. I was pointing out just being a "good preacher" does not necessarily mean anything

Yeah LF can preach, but just remember God promised to blss all the seeds of Abraham. LF is in one of those branches. But LF is not the topic here.

You say growing is not "true kingdom growing." That they are not reaching the lost. Well ok then. Because they do not teach the Acts 2:38 thing does not mean they are not anointed nor reach the lost. The article that started this whole things says that they have had at least 200 different outreach ministries. Wow that is not reaching the lost????

I never said that having people and money alone is spiritual growth. That is spiritual chaos if you ask me. There is not accountability there. However, with 200 different outreach ministries comes more people which means more money. Simple. The truth is that an church is this movement, I mean the oneness movement, that have alot of people you typically see the ministry driving nicer cars and have nicer homes, etc. What you are doing is pitching and catching. Everyone is pointing at Randy and Paula as crooked people. Sure they probably have their problems, but their are people I know that if given the opportunity to be in their shoes they would trade.

IAintMovin · #**175** 06-03-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I will say something nice about Paula White, in honor of our precious Mother Alvear, who I sincerely respect very greatly:

As far as I know, she don't steal chickens.

She probably dont kill coons either.......errrr.....is that something nice that I jsut said.....or is that not nice.....not sure ...... help me here Coonie.........

Praxeas · #**176** 06-03-2007, 03:12 PM

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Yeah LF can preach, but just remember God promised to blss all the seeds of Abraham. LF is in one of those branches. But LF is not the topic here.

You raised the issue about being able to preach and being anointed. Does LF have the Holy Ghost? BTW are you sure he is one of the seeds of Abraham?

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You say growing is not "true kingdom growing."

No I did not say growing is not true kingdom growing. I said simply growing larger congregations is not true kingdom growing. If I absorb saints from other churches that is not growing God's kingdom

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That they are not reaching the lost.

I did not say they are not reaching the Lost. I said simply growing in numbers by adding more people to a local church is NOT kingdom growing unless those souls were lost to begin with and they were converted. Growing one's personal wealth and kingdom is NOT growing God's kingdom.

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Well ok then. Because they do not teach the Acts 2:38 thing does not mean they are not anointed nor reach the lost.

You are adding to what I said...in fact you are twisting it. I never mentioned anything about them not teaching Acts 2:38 being a reason for not reaching the lost.

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The article that started this whole things says that they have had at least 200 different outreach ministries. Wow that is not reaching the lost????

I repeat, I am not saying they have not reached the Lost. I am replying to what was said about "growing".

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I never said that having people and money alone is spiritual growth.

That is spiritual chaos if you ask me. There is not accountability there.

Agree

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However, with 200 different outreach ministries comes more people which means more money. Simple.

Are ALL those outreach ministries about income? I thought some were about helping others

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The truth is that an church is this movement, I mean the oneness movement, that have alot of people you typically see the ministry driving nicer cars and have nicer homes, etc.

Good for them. I hope they read the word and contribute to God's kingdom growth by reaching the lost and helping the poor

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What you are doing is pitching and catching. Everyone is pointing at Randy and Paula as crooked people. Sure they probably have their problems, but their are people I know that if given the opportunity to be in their shoes they would trade.

That you know people that would want to be in their shoes does not make Randy or Paula better people or worse. That's sort of a non sequitor. If Randy and Paula are crooked they would not be the first or the last.