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Old 02-02-2011, 11:50 AM
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Re: This forum needs a name change...

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That is an excellent point, MB. Those ministers on the other forums are possibly derelict in their duty in that they gave up the fight.
They aren't contending for the faith...
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:53 AM
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Re: This forum needs a name change...

To retain any reasonable claim to be "Apostolic," this forum must hold to the following truths:
  • There is One God. This one God reveals Himself as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  • The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  • Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  • That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  • That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  • The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

If these truths are allowed to be openly denied, then the forum is not an "Apostolic" forum.
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:55 AM
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Re: This forum needs a name change...

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They aren't contending for the faith...
True. They got "tired" of dealing with the constant defending of Jesus Name baptism and the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of tongues.
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:56 AM
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That is an excellent point, MB. Those ministers on the other forums are possibly derelict in their duty in that they gave up the fight.
"Derelict" in our duty to fight? Why is it necessary and so important to fight? I believe what I believe and I don't feel it is necessary to fight about it. I'm tired of arguing or debating - whatever you want to call it and glossing that over as a "Berean".

I am going to include myself in the Conservative voice that has become quiet. In the grander scheme of things, it doesn't seem important anymore.
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:58 AM
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"Derelict" in our duty to fight? Why is it necessary and so important to fight? I believe what I believe and I don't feel it is necessary to fight about it. I'm tired of arguing or debating - whatever you want to call it and glossing that over as a "Berean".

I am going to include myself in the Conservative voice that has become quiet. In the grander scheme of things, it doesn't seem important anymore.
Did you ever hear of "the good fight"? How about "contending for the faith"? Pressing-On, don't quit.
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Re: This forum needs a name change...

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To retain any reasonable claim to be "Apostolic," this forum must hold to the following truths:
  • There is One God. This one God reveals Himself as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

    Let me know when you figure that all out.
  • The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
    Same as just about all Christian groups
  • Every sinner must repent of their sins. Same as just about all Christian groups
  • That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
    The Old Issue
  • That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues. Most here believe that. Tongues as exclusive evidence? Maybe not so. One man told his story of how he had a vision, felt a burning sensation, and the voice of God speaking to Him. He was caught up with God. You figure that one out. But most here believe in the HG Baptism. Whether that is to be salvific or not, that's never been "APOSTOLIC."
  • The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Duh

If these truths are allowed to be openly denied, then the forum is not an "Apostolic" forum.
Says you.

I won't let you hijack the voice of the Apostles for what seems to be a narrowly-defined view.
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Old 02-02-2011, 12:00 PM
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"Derelict" in our duty to fight? Why is it necessary and so important to fight? I believe what I believe and I don't feel it is necessary to fight about it. I'm tired of arguing or debating - whatever you want to call it and glossing that over as a "Berean".

I am going to include myself in the Conservative voice that has become quiet. In the grander scheme of things, it doesn't seem important anymore.
Not all of us care to do this 24/7 either.

It's the nature of a forum though. Usually the ebb and flow all evens out.
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Old 02-02-2011, 12:01 PM
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Re: This forum needs a name change...

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To retain any reasonable claim to be "Apostolic," this forum must hold to the following truths:
  • There is One God. This one God reveals Himself as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  • The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  • Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  • That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  • That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  • The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

If these truths are allowed to be openly denied, then the forum is not an "Apostolic" forum.
Thou hast spoken. All dissent must now cease.

A question... if this is allowed...

Is any form of debate on any of these issue tantamount to denial?
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Old 02-02-2011, 12:02 PM
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Thou hast spoken. All dissent must now cease.

Is any form of debate on any of these issue tantamount to denial?
It's all been once settled. Now don't ask questions. Shut up and listen!
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Old 02-02-2011, 12:03 PM
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Did you ever hear of "the good fight"? How about "contending for the faith"?
I think that you can "contend for the faith" until it becomes unproductive for your personal life. And I, especially, think that we can lose a bit of our tenderness and patience in the continuing battle. And, LOL, I think we need to decide for ourselves whether the battle is productive or not. Many of the Conservative voices haven't left a fight, they have felt it is unproductive, IMO. Why be so at odds day after day?
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