OK, here's my angle: I've seen it stated that there is one God, and His name is Jesus. It's in the AFF definition of Apostolic. But it occurred to me that a lot of you guys seem to refer to Jesus only as the "Son" manifestation/office, and not so often to the "Holy Spirit" or "Father". Or even to God in general!
If I had asked "Did God ever kill anyone?", I think it'd be nearly unanimous: yes. But if God's name is Jesus, isn't that question exactly the same as the question of this poll? And yet No leads 9 to 7. Interesting, don't you think?
Just having a little fun with ya!
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Hey, I'd love to explain my "angle" for this poll, but, it'll have to wait. Hockey game. (And never mind that it would have taken about the same time to explain my "angle" as it did to type in this post! )
We won, BTW. Shutout, 4-0.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I agree. But what about newbies to the faith who come here?
Timmy is a wonderful person, for sure. But would a pastor, let's say, really want someone going to all the saints in the church and asking them all these sorts of questions that are meant to inspire doubt in the bible? Just asking. I mean, it's like, "Think of this..." and it is intended to get people thinking of an alleged implication that would cause one to conclude the bible cannot be true due to that implication.
Let me ask you this, Mike. From what I gather, you are not a UPCer or in any of the groups similar to the UPC. I can't say for a certainty, but I would assume that you occasionally participate in discussions that are contrary to the UPC-type tenets. For example, salvation at repentance and the unnecessary dress codes. Again, I can't bet my life on it, but I think I may have just described two of your beliefs.
I suspect you have propagated those two ideals here on the forum. So here's the question....what do you think a UPC pastor would think of you if one of his members were here potentially being swayed by your opinions? Certainly, if you were in the congregation doing this, he would stop you and/or ask you to leave. And I doubt that pastor would want his member being influenced by your teachings.
Let me ask you this, Mike. From what I gather, you are not a UPCer or in any of the groups similar to the UPC. I can't say for a certainty, but I would assume that you occasionally participate in discussions that are contrary to the UPC-type tenets. For example, salvation at repentance and the unnecessary dress codes. Again, I can't bet my life on it, but I think I may have just described two of your beliefs.
I preach all of Acts 2:38 for salvation. What God wants to do with those who do not obey all Acts 2:38 is up to Him. I do not judge them.
I disagree with dress standards. Yes, except JUST BE MODEST!
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I suspect you have propagated those two ideals here on the forum.
Since I do not believe in "one step", I did not preach against Acts 2:38 here. But I have stated dress standards are error, however it is not a salvational issue unless a person thinks the way they dress should be added to Acts 2:38 for salvation.
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So here's the question....what do you think a UPC pastor would think of you if one of his members were here potentially being swayed by your opinions? Certainly, if you were in the congregation doing this, he would stop you and/or ask you to leave. And I doubt that pastor would want his member being influenced by your teachings.
Just a thought.
When it comes to standards, I do disagree with them. But they are not salvational as most standard-keeping people will propose. Some claim they may be salvational, but I think they are a minority. However, comparing someone who is trying to persuade people about the entire bible being wrong is a far cry from someone proposing that dress standards are not salvation. I think most would agree.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Nope. No vote from mfblume. Maybe he's waiting to find out my agenda!
I think I already know you agenda. You are trying to imply error in the overall Bible, as far as I can see, with this and similar polls and discussions you initiate, though not all. Sorry if I am incorrect. .
But since I protest such an agenda on this forum, I will not participate. Nothing personal.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
I think I already know you agenda. You are trying to imply error in the overall Bible, as far as I can see. Sorry if I am incorrect. .
According to post #173, I believe he was attempting to show the inconsistency of those who are insistent on oneness principles. If he has attempted to show error in the overall bible, I don't think he did it here.
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I do not judge them.
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