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Re: Do you believe the innocent party in a situati
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So she taught him a lesson by cheating on him? That's how she opened his eyes?
That's fantastic. What a great example for us all. LOL!!!!
If he forgave her and they're happy now--great. But that was definitely the wrong way to resolve their issues. She could have taken it to God in prayer, and kept the problem where it belonged--inside the marriage.
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No one said it was an example, Abigail. And no one said she used the circumstance to resolve their issues. It was something that happened because of their issues. And, yes, taking it to God is always best. Perhaps in a moment of weakness, Satan tempted her and then God stepped in......
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PO, you are very stubborn and headstrong. I'm sure that's part of what your husband loves about you, no need to change it on our account!!!!
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You took the words out of his mouth, but I'm nice while I'm stubborn - right?
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05-14-2009, 11:43 AM
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Re: Do you believe the innocent party in a situati
Adultery is a serious, serious, serious issue. It's like saying someone accidentally scratched the paint on my car, so I took a hammer and smashed their car in from one end to the other. The punishment doesn't fit the crime.
I don't care WHAT anyone does, adultery is a major, major offense. It's hard to be bad enough to deserve adultery being committed against you.
If you simply can not endure the person you are married to, divorce them. THEN find someone else. Don't get the steps backwards.
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05-14-2009, 11:45 AM
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Re: Do you believe the innocent party in a situati
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PO, my point is that there are couples who have remained faithful to one another in spite of serious hardships, and they make the rest look bad.
Adultery is inexcusable. IMO, it would be better for the couple to honestly face their problems, and if they can't be reconciled, possibly divorce, than for one of them to commit adultery with a third party. Fornication(sexual sin) is a sin against God, other people, AND your own body--the temple of God. It's serious.
In the OT, the adulterer and his mistress were stoned, but his wife was not. (or the adulteress and her mister)
If the wife were equally to blame, then why not stone her as well?
Because she's the "innocent party"--that's why.
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Lots of things are inexcusable - lying, gossip, backbiting, etc. All are forgivable.
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05-14-2009, 11:46 AM
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Re: Do you believe the innocent party in a situati
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No one said it was an example, Abigail. And no one said she used the circumstance to resolve their issues. It was something that happened because of their issues. And, yes, taking it to God is always best. Perhaps in a moment of weakness, Satan tempted her and then God stepped in......
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So.....bringing this around full circle.....perhaps defrauding isn't only about sex, but ALL our needs in a marriage. In the case, you described the husband was withholding something the wife needed to be fulfilled in the marriage and he wasn't.
Because he was defrauding, she WAS tempted.
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05-14-2009, 11:48 AM
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Re: Do you believe the innocent party in a situati
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So.....bringing this around full circle.....perhaps defrauding isn't only about sex, but ALL our needs in a marriage. In the case, you described the husband was withholding something the wife needed to be fulfilled in the marriage and he wasn't.
Because he was defrauding, she WAS tempted.
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Yes, good point, Renda! They were both at fault.
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05-14-2009, 11:49 AM
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Re: Do you believe the innocent party in a situati
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Yes, good point, Renda! They were both at fault.
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Both had a hand in the problem, but I STILL think the choice was left up to her which makes her wrong.
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05-14-2009, 11:54 AM
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Re: Do you believe the innocent party in a situati
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PO, my point is that there are couples who have remained faithful to one another in spite of serious hardships, and they make the rest look bad.
Adultery is inexcusable. IMO, it would be better for the couple to honestly face their problems, and if they can't be reconciled, possibly divorce, than for one of them to commit adultery with a third party. Fornication(sexual sin) is a sin against God, other people, AND your own body--the temple of God. It's serious.
In the OT, the adulterer and his mistress were stoned, but his wife was not. (or the adulteress and her mister)
If the wife were equally to blame, then why not stone her as well?
Because she's the "innocent party"--that's why.
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She probably was an innocent party. Who is going to prove, except for God, whether she had anything to do with him stepping out on her. I'm sure she didn't have anything to do with it. There's plenty of instructions in the Book of Proverbs that speaks on strange woman.
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Both had a hand in the problem, but I STILL think the choice was left up to her which makes her wrong.
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I think they were both wrong. He is still remiss in not loving her as Christ loved the church.
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05-14-2009, 12:00 PM
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Re: Do you believe the innocent party in a situati
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I think they were both wrong. He is still remiss in not loving her as Christ loved the church.
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Well, that's the happy ending because he was forgiving of what she did and took ownership of him not loving her like he should. That is good.
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