What is the young UPC preacher waiting for?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Ron,

You know, I must respectfully disagree with you here. To link the reason why some ultra/conservatives stopped posting cannot be blamed on differences of opinion. Differences of opinion are tolerated but spirits and attitudes of obstinance and arrogancy which have no basis in scripture are not.

There have been many excellent posts brought up on this particular thread. One in particular was that from Renda about how that God really blessed a young man through his worship to God using the talent he felt God had given him [drum playing]. Some people don't believe drums have a place in church, while others don't believe in strobe lights but what we think and feel is not important...it is what God's word says.

Unless you can base your 'opinion' on more than just a 'feeling' then your opinion is just that , your opinion. Everyone has a right to their own opinion but what we don't have a right to do is add to, or take away from, the word of God.

I think it very consistent when those who rarely post...show their head when there is a conflict between conservative/traditional views and views that don't fit in their little box and bring their amen corner in only to retreat when they have had their say.

Just my opinion, not Biblically based.

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni,

Attitudes & Bad Spirits are not just the realm of Cons, ultra Cons or Mods.
There has been a lot from the Liberal camp.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by CC1

Ron,

You are a good guy and work hard not to be offensive. I know you did not mean to personally offend any of your fellow Canadians who go to the church that is known f or the lighting and fog effects at youth events.

You were stating your personal opinoin and the shoe fit when they read it so they responded.

Nobody is the bad guy here.

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Ron, FWIW, I think you have a right to express your opinion here! I may not agree with you, but I'll stand behind your right to say what you believe. If that's how you really believe, there's no need to apologize!

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Ron,

You know, I must respectfully disagree with you here. To link the reason why some ultra/conservatives stopped posting cannot be blamed on differences of opinion. Differences of opinion are tolerated but spirits and attitudes of obstinance and arrogancy which have no basis in scripture are not.

There have been many excellent posts brought up on this particular thread. One in particular was that from Renda about how that God really blessed a young man through his worship to God using the talent he felt God had given him [drum playing]. Some people don't believe drums have a place in church, while others don't believe in strobe lights but what we think and feel is not important...it is what God's word says.

Unless you can base your 'opinion' on more than just a 'feeling' then your opinion is just that , your opinion. Everyone has a right to their own opinion but what we don't have a right to do is add to, or take away from, the word of God.

I think it very consistent when those who rarely post...show their head when there is a conflict between conservative/traditional views and views that don't fit in their little box and bring their amen corner in only to retreat when they have had their say.

Just my opinion, not Biblically based.

Blessings, Rhoni

Bro. Ron,
We love and respect you and you have a right to state any opinion you wish. There is nothing to forgive here.
Blessings, Rhoni

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Ron

Rhoni,

Attitudes & Bad Spirits are not just the realm of Cons, ultra Cons or Mods.
There has been a lot from the Liberal camp.

I don't believe her post said that the attitudes were coming from just one camp.

I just wish we could put the "camp" labels out to dry and just discuss.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Ron

Rhoni,

Attitudes & Bad Spirits are not just the realm of Cons, ultra Cons or Mods.
There has been a lot from the Liberal camp.

Ron,

This is true. But casting blame on the liberals because of an exodus by the ultra conservatives is a bit presumptive.

Blessings, Rhoni

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Bro. Ron,
We love and respect you and you have a right to state any opinion you wish. There is nothing to forgive here.
Blessings, Rhoni

Actually, there was and Ron was right to apologize. He offended fellow Canadians.

Ron, I do appreciate your apology to them.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Bro. Ron,
We love and respect you and you have a right to state any opinion you wish. There is nothing to forgive here.
Blessings, Rhoni

People were offended & my opinion no matter if it is right or wrong, shouldn't cause offense.

I did need to apologize.

Side Note: I did not know what Church this was, (although friends have told me there are a few doing it now) & the Church is a good one.

If you want a great Bible Teacher get this Pastor!

[Sister Alvear]

While we all may not agree we do not have to be rude. The law of kindness should always be in our hearts.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I don't believe her post said that the attitudes were coming from just one camp.

I just wish we could put the "camp" labels out to dry and just discuss.

And the Red Sea will part once again!

I hear ya.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Ron

I wasn't trying to insult you PP, but I think a lot of your posts are broad brushed to an extant that if any believes "any standards" of the UPC, they are legalists &
not "following the lead of the Spirit" into all things liberal.

I am sorry, but it comes across that way.

Man, I'd hate to see what you'd write if you were trying !

[Ron]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Actually, there was and Ron was right to apologize. He offended fellow Canadians.

Ron, I do appreciate your apology to them.

Whether they were Canadians or Americans, I offended them & for that I apologize!