Hell Bound? Says who???

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

And why don't you stop despising my youth? There was an older woman in my assembly, when my pastor was first starting up that would condescendingly go to him and say, "That was good preaching sonny." He later became pastor of the assembly. She's now gone.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

OK, you've made two statements without backing them up:

#1 That I was disrespecting my comrade, Bro, Epley.
#2 That I am despising your youth.

If ya can't back 'em up, don't say 'em!

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

But what about men who carried Bibles with them, and even read them, but still stayed in the darkness they were in and didn't find the Apostolic Gospel? Isn't the Bible the best witness of the Apostolic Gospel?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Men are often victims of traditional interpretations. Often the clouds of tradition hinder them from seeing what is staring them right in the face. However, if they walked in all the light they knew, I count them as Christian. I refuse to say rather they were saved or not. God alone is qualified to judge the human soul. However, I will reiterate...if one wishes to KNOW they are saved they should obey Acts 2:38.

Here's a question...can you find us a translation of the Bible translated and preserved by Apostolic, Acts 2:38 Christians??? The very Bible you read was translated by inspired Trinitarian scholars. Even the chapter and verse numbers are the result of an inspired Trinitarian scholar. So the very fact that you can say "Acts 2:38" instead of, "That statement written toward the beginning of Acts after Peter's sermon..." is the result of a Trinitarian.

C'mon...how arrogant can we be?

We sing Amazing Grace during our altar calls...and claim John Newton knew nothing about grace.

We sing How Great Thou Art...and claim that Carl Gustaf Boberg knew nothing about God's greatness.

You have to understand, the Catholic Church twisted the Scriptures terribly and many precious souls walked in the only degree of light and understanding they knew...most never owned or were even allowed to read a Bible. In fact the Bible was kept in Latin to make it even more difficult to read even if they were to gain a Bible. Then the Reformers each discovered neglected truths in Scripture and broke from the Catholic Church and continued to break into denominations as additional understandings were gained. After the revivalism of the Great Awakening the church grew cold awaiting a fresh revival. Denominational ministers prayed for revival. Of course...they thought revival would validate their denomination and would only be under their banner...however God had even more truth to reveal. Soon God began to pour out His Spirit and a modern Pentecost occurred. Then the Holy Ghost led those Pentecostals who continued to seek into Jesus name baptism!

Bro...we're not waiting on end time revival...WE ARE THE END TIME REVIVAL. GOD HAS RESTORED AND REVIVED THE CHURCH! Give God PRAISE!

To hear some we're a different religion than Tyndale and Wycliffe altogether. But while claiming this...they quote a Bible that is the product of these inspired men.

Let's refute error and teach the Apostolic Truth. But let's not judge men's souls...especially those who were Christian walking in all the light they understood.

Romans 14:4
"4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. ..."

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

As a brother who's only 5'3" myself, I really didn't like personal attack. He's not some "guy" he's an elder and should be entreated as such.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Dude I seriously dont think that could ever be considered a personal attack! Besides everyone always messes w Bro E about his height or lack thereof... chill a lil ok?

[AmazingGrace]

Sept... you are sitting here speaking of him talking disrespectfully to an elder( which he didnt do) and yet you are doing this exact same thing???? Slowly walk away from the computer!!! Take a break for a few min and rethink this...

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

Men are often victims of traditional interpretations. Often the clouds of tradition hinder them from seeing what is staring them right in the face. However, if they walked in all the light they knew, I count them as Christian. I refuse to say rather they were saved or not. God alone is qualified to judge the human soul. However, I will reiterate...if one wishes to KNOW they are saved they should obey Acts 2:38.

Here's a question...can you find us a translation of the Bible translated and preserved by Apostolic, Acts 2:38 Christians??? The very Bible you read was translated by inspired Trinitarian scholars. Even the chapter and verse numbers are the result of an inspired Trinitarian scholar. So the very fact that you can say "Acts 2:38" instead of, "That statement written toward the beginning of Acts after Peter's sermon..." is the result of a Trinitarian.

C'mon...how arrogant can we be?

We sing Amazing Grace during our altar calls...and claim John Newton knew nothing about grace.

We sing How Great Thou Art...and claim that Carl Gustaf Boberg knew nothing about God's greatness.

You have to understand, the Catholic Church twisted the Scriptures terribly and many precious souls walked in the only degree of light and understanding they knew...most never owned or were even allowed to read a Bible. In fact the Bible was kept in Latin to make it even more difficult to read even if they were to gain a Bible. Then the Reformers each discovered neglected truths in Scripture and broke from the Catholic Church and continued to break into denominations as additional understandings were gained. After the revivalism of the Great Awakening the church grew cold awaiting a fresh revival. Denominational ministers prayed for revival. Of course...they thought revival would validate their denomination and would only be under their banner...however God had even more truth to reveal. Soon God began to pour out His Spirit and a modern Pentecost occurred. Then the Holy Ghost led those Pentecostals who continued to seek into Jesus name baptism!

Bro...we're not waiting on end time revival...WE ARE THE END TIME REVIVAL. GOD HAS RESTORED AND REVIVED THE CHURCH! Give God PRAISE!

To hear some we're a different religion than Tyndale and Wycliffe altogether. But while claiming this...they quote a Bible that is the product of these inspired men.

Let's refute error and teach the Apostolic Truth. But let's not judge men's souls...especially those who were Christian walking in all the light they understood.

Thank you, for a well reasoned post, this is the kind of posts that adds to understanding. Knowledge puffs up, but understanding tempers all our pride.

Chris,

Did you see the movie, Amazing Grace? I loved John Newton's character, he played it so well. "...I WAS ONCE BLINNND, BUUTTT NOOWW I seeeee...! So, exemplified the great grace and love of God. Brought tears to my eyes.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Esther

With all due respect, there is no way you can prove this statement unless you are God!

God cannot lie and I read His book.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

Sept... you are sitting here speaking of him talking disrespectfully to an elder( which he didnt do) and yet you are doing this exact same thing???? Slowly walk away from the computer!!! Take a break for a few min and rethink this...

Oh boy, round two, he is on a roll today!

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

Oh boy, round two, he is on a roll today!

I see but I have come to realize some people just arent worth my time... nothing personal but I am tired of being around people who do nothing but pull you down!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

Men are often victims of traditional interpretations. Often the clouds of tradition hinder them from seeing what is staring them right in the face. However, if they walked in all the light they knew, I count them as Christian. I refuse to say rather they were saved or not. God alone is qualified to judge the human soul. However, I will reiterate...if one wishes to KNOW they are saved they should obey Acts 2:38.

Here's a question...can you find us a translation of the Bible translated and preserved by Apostolic, Acts 2:38 Christians??? The very Bible you read was translated by inspired Trinitarian scholars. Even the chapter and verse numbers are the result of an inspired Trinitarian scholar. So the very fact that you can say "Acts 2:38" instead of, "That statement written toward the beginning of Acts after Peter's sermon..." is the result of a Trinitarian.

C'mon...how arrogant can we be?

We sing Amazing Grace during our altar calls...and claim John Newton knew nothing about grace.

We sing How Great Thou Art...and claim that Carl Gustaf Boberg knew nothing about God's greatness.

You have to understand, the Catholic Church twisted the Scriptures terribly and many precious souls walked in the only degree of light and understanding they knew...most never owned or were even allowed to read a Bible. In fact the Bible was kept in Latin to make it even more difficult to read even if they were to gain a Bible. Then the Reformers each discovered neglected truths in Scripture and broke from the Catholic Church and continued to break into denominations as additional understandings were gained. After the revivalism of the Great Awakening the church grew cold awaiting a fresh revival. Denominational ministers prayed for revival. Of course...they thought revival would validate their denomination and would only be under their banner...however God had even more truth to reveal. Soon God began to pour out His Spirit and a modern Pentecost occurred. Then the Holy Ghost led those Pentecostals who continued to seek into Jesus name baptism!

Bro...we're not waiting on end time revival...WE ARE THE END TIME REVIVAL. GOD HAS RESTORED AND REVIVED THE CHURCH! Give God PRAISE!

To hear some we're a different religion than Tyndale and Wycliffe altogether. But while claiming this...they quote a Bible that is the product of these inspired men.

Let's refute error and teach the Apostolic Truth. But let's not judge men's souls...especially those who were Christian walking in all the light they understood.

Bro. Hall I for one do NOT believe in the restoration of thr church! Jesus said the gates of Hell shall NOT prevail against the church. Either He lied or the church has always existed preaching truth.
Most so-called reformers were wicked men such as Luther & Calvin.
I have NEVER said that some did not have some type of experience where God touched them and dealt with them however they failed to walk into truth thus their light became darkness.
There is NO such thing as a Christian without obeying Acts 2:38!
If ignorance saves then salvation is of works. Only Calvary's blood saves and the plan it purchased.
You have allowed emotion and sentiment to override the clear teachings of the Bible.
I believe there are sincere Buddist, Moslems, Catholics, JW's, Mormons, are they saved?

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

Sept... you are sitting here speaking of him talking disrespectfully to an elder( which he didnt do) and yet you are doing this exact same thing???? Slowly walk away from the computer!!! Take a break for a few min and rethink this...

I question the eldership of MOW, due to the fact that he does not believe in Acts 2:38 as the standard of salvation.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex