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Everybody knows socialists have the best of intentions!
Brother Ron I'm glad things are going well for you. The Canadians and Brits I have spoken with, as well as the tales relayed to me by truck driver friends who meet Canadian truckers, all have mentioned the waiting periods and the unpleasantness of some of the other constraints.
Riiiigggghhhht. I go to Canada every year bro. I've got friends up there I can call right now and talk to them about this, again, and confirm, once more, that they've never had a wait, can go to any doctor they like, and pay far less for their coverage than we do. I know a couple attending our church right now who lived in Europe before moving here and said our system can be summed up in one word, "insanity".
Here in our system 18,000 die every year because they are denied coverage or cannot afford treatments that could have saved their lives. I'm sure that they would have taken one of those mythical waits you're talking about over death.
Also in America you can't go to any hospital you like or any doctor you desire. They have to be "in network" for most of our private plans.
Hmmmm......they are working on a medFICO to determine how profitable it will be to treat you, 18,000 people die every year because of insufficient coverage or the lack of coverage, 25,000 people declare bankruptcy every year because of medical bills, you can't go to a hospital or doctor who is "out of network", elderly people having to choose between food and the prescription drugs they need.
Bros...all those mythical horror stories and propaganda you're telling us about Canada...they sound more like the realities we are facing in the United States health care system.
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Who knows, if the Americans tackle Universal Health Care, it may be the model for the world.
Far too many people here in America are afraid to dream. They don't realize Americans have a tendency to revolutionize and lead when we finally get involved. I've been saying for months that when America finally does it, it will be the best system in the world. We have the benefit of looking at all the systems in place now and avoiding the pitfalls they experienced. Ron, I too think that our contribution to Universal Health Care will help some nations work out the bugs in their own systems.
But too many people aren't visionaries. They can't rise above their fears. But I've chosen to have hope. I've chosen to dream big for our country. I believe we can do it...I believe we WILL do it...and it will be a system that indeed may prove to be the best on the planet, a model, as you said. But we're going to have to overcome our fears and dream big and have hope again! The politics of the 1900's is dying. It's 2008...the future is now.
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Ron, where you at Bro? We spend at least a week in Outlet Ontario during the Summers. We stay in a little cottage belonging to my uncle-in-law on Charleston Lake. Are you near that area?
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It was a long post. Basically a medFICO score is a medical credit score that the industry is assigning everyone to help hospitals determine your likelihood of being able to pay your medical bill. Right now they're promising it will not be used at admission, only upon discharge to keep track of your medical debt and ability to pay or not pay.
Which is it then? This sounds a lot like the evil SWIFT financial transactions and other "mark of the beast" horror stories. It's almost as bad as Ron's "I heard news stories of hospitals dumping people on the street in the US ..."
Yeah, right.
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall
Consumer advocates are arguing that once in place there's nothing to prevent hospitals, doctors, or other provider.s from checking your score upon admission and triaging you according to your ability to pay. Those with a good score may be seen first while those with a low score may be forced to wait longer for care or even transfered to a different facility for those with lower scores.
They also point out that there is nothing to prevent employers from looking up this score as part of a hiring process to try and determine if you'd be too expensive of an employee to insure.
It's like a credit score being pulled before you buy a car or a house. Accept they pull this score and keep track of it as you seek medical services.
That's the future of private health care in America. I'm making this clear right here and now. I'm for Universal Health Insurance.
Chris, if the money that I have paid into Social Security had instead been invested in private mutual funds, I would be looking at retiring with millions of dollars. Instead, what I'm looking at is a huge black hole where I won't even get my money back. That's the government's "Universal Retirement Plan." It's bankrupt.
And now you want to give them the reins of our health care as well? Open your Bible, human government is the problem. Socialism is a disease that has failed wherever its been tried. Europe is dying because of it. Human beings are designed to be free. We die when we're locked in cages.
"Universal Health Insurance" is an oxymoron. The "Insurance" will be universal but the "Health" will be reserved for the fat cats. Guys like you and me will become prey to the Benny Hinns of the world because we have no hope of actually seeing a doctor.
Far too many people here in America are afraid to dream. They don't realize Americans have a tendency to revolutionize and lead when we finally get involved. I've been saying for months that when America finally does it, it will be the best system in the world. We have the benefit of looking at all the systems in place now and avoiding the pitfalls they experienced. Ron, I too think that our contribution to Universal Health Care will help some nations work out the bugs in their own systems.
But too many people aren't visionaries. They can't rise above their fears. But I've chosen to have hope. I've chosen to dream big for our country. I believe we can do it...I believe we WILL do it...and it will be a system that indeed may prove to be the best on the planet, a model, as you said. But we're going to have to overcome our fears and dream big and have hope again! The politics of the 1900's is dying. It's 2008...the future is now.
My grandparents had a dream about retirement. Because of the failings of the private financial institutions during the Great Depression they placed their hope in a the new government run retirement system called Social Security.
Sure, "social security" was responsible for the deaths of 20 million in the Soviet Union, but hey! We're Americans! We can get the bugs out of the system and our "social security" will be the model that the rest of the world looks to as a shining beacon of hope.
Today, Social Security is a mess. It's neither "social" nor "security." It's just a way for the government to eat up 13% and more of my hard earned wages. And thats on top of all the other taxes I pay.
You happy guys and your "Big Government is the Answer" are going to be responsible for untold human misery and suffering if your "dreams" are ever realized. What component of FDR's "New Deal" ever worked? Nothing. And now you want to expand the program? Sad.
My grandparents had a dream about retirement. Because of the failings of the private financial institutions during the Great Depression they placed their hope in a the new government run retirement system called Social Security.
Sure, "social security" was responsible for the deaths of 20 million in the Soviet Union, but hey! We're Americans! We can get the bugs out of the system and our "social security" will be the model that the rest of the world looks to as a shining beacon of hope.
Today, Social Security is a mess. It's neither "social" nor "security." It's just a way for the government to eat up 13% and more of my hard earned wages. And thats on top of all the other taxes I pay.
You happy guys and your "Big Government is the Answer" are going to be responsible for untold human misery and suffering if your "dreams" are ever realized. What component of FDR's "New Deal" ever worked? Nothing. And now you want to expand the program? Sad.
Like I said before, America did so well managing Medicare, Medicaid, etc we sure want them to manage even more......Feed the beast.
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My grandparents had a dream about retirement. Because of the failings of the private financial institutions during the Great Depression they placed their hope in a the new government run retirement system called Social Security.
Sure, "social security" was responsible for the deaths of 20 million in the Soviet Union, but hey! We're Americans! We can get the bugs out of the system and our "social security" will be the model that the rest of the world looks to as a shining beacon of hope.
Today, Social Security is a mess. It's neither "social" nor "security." It's just a way for the government to eat up 13% and more of my hard earned wages. And thats on top of all the other taxes I pay.
You happy guys and your "Big Government is the Answer" are going to be responsible for untold human misery and suffering if your "dreams" are ever realized. What component of FDR's "New Deal" ever worked? Nothing. And now you want to expand the program? Sad.
So true, the only thing Social Security secures, is poverty for those who depend on it!
and what do democrats say? changing the system is BAD!. that is what democrats say.
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