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01-10-2008, 07:43 PM
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The thing is...I have seen and heard a lot of attitudes towards this particular sin that makes me wonder how willing we are as an org to forgive and attempt to heal those that do repent..
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01-10-2008, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
The thing is...I have seen and heard a lot of attitudes towards this particular sin that makes me wonder how willing we are as an org to forgive and attempt to heal those that do repent..
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I can't speak to every situation, but I can tell you, if someone is honest in repentence, I would be more likely to restore than someone who just tries to do the rug cover boogey.
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01-10-2008, 07:53 PM
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Where did Paul say Peter had to give a public apology to everyone? I mean what constitutes a public apology? Did Paul cut peter off from the body before he could apologize? Would Peter's apology matter? probably but I don't think LWs apology or admission would mean squat to a lot of people in the UPC. When it comes to homosexuality that seems to be the unpardonable sin. Did Peter send a letter to every church announcing what a scum bag he was (admission) and then say he was sorry for his sins?
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I was asking rheutorical questions. Sorry, I should have used some smileys. 
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01-10-2008, 08:05 PM
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It is very hard to forgive someone that has hurt you in any way. But it can happen. A lot of prayer and counseling can help you overcome. But God is the only one that can cleanse a sinners soul. No matter how much we would like to have an apology we may never get one. But God can help us to forgive anyway. God is waiting on a lot of people to ask for frogiveness, he will probably never hear it. But that doesn't mean he is not able to forgive. And it is much easier to condemn someone we think was held to a higher standard. LW was not. He is held to the same standard by God that we are. God is the one than can demands an apology not me. But there is another point that people forget also, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Who am I to say that someone owes me an apology when God is the only ones that knows another's heart? But I agree if a church, any church allows someone in their pulpit or on their platform that is living a sinful life it is wrong. And yes we do have to take a stand NOW against sin, any sin. And thank God there are many that do.
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01-10-2008, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by acharris
The time has come where I feel I must leave the AFF. I have enjoyed the friends I have made, but I've not enjoyed the enemies I've made. I just hope those who are so judgmental here can live a sinless life, because God will not forgive those who refuse to forgive. St. Matthew put the nail in the coffin.
However, I will be praying for those who speak the truth in love.
God bless you all,
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Come on Brother Harris, don't be like that.
You know you're going to miss me, so stop all of this cranky posturing and get back in the game.
In Jesus name
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01-10-2008, 09:05 PM
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Come on Brother Harris, don't be like that.
You know you're going to miss me, so stop all of this cranky posturing and get back in the game.
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I'm still trying to get Carrol Burnett out of my head after seeing the title of this thread.........
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01-10-2008, 09:24 PM
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I'm still trying to get Carrol Burnett out of my head after seeing the title of this thread.........
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-10-2008, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
It is very hard to forgive someone that has hurt you in any way.
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No, that's not true. You get over it and move on.
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
But it can happen.
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It happens due to people not WANTING to forgive. It's all about the want to.
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
A lot of prayer and counseling can help you overcome.
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Praying through till you drain your sinus cavities does wonders. Speak in tongues and pray face down in a puddle of snot does a body good. 
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But God is the only one that can cleanse a sinners soul. No matter how much we would like to have an apology we may never get one.
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If you don't take it personal, then there is no need for apologies. Sometimes "sorry" can be a "sorry" word.
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
But God can help us to forgive anyway.
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Only if we WANT to, God is not about force, He is all about leading.
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
God is waiting on a lot of people to ask for frogiveness, he will probably never hear it. But that doesn't mean he is not able to forgive.
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Praying through solves many a problem.
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And it is much easier to condemn someone we think was held to a higher standard.
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Now hold on there a minute Baba Loui! When a man takes a position over young people to be teacher and trainer, he has a responsibility to their parents and to God. When a man takes advantage of a young girl, then the women come out in force with pitch forks, axe handles, and torches to chase the lawbreaker up into the windmill to burn down the culprit and his hiding place.
It does seem very strange that when it's homosexual activity women aren't too fussed over the deal. I'm not saying that any of the ladies here are of that crowd, but what if LW would of taken advantage of some very young girl students and they came up pregnant, what then?
I do believe there wouldn't be many falling over themselves to go see the trio reunion. Just my opinion.
Imagine there was a time in this world if something like this would of happened you would of never heard of the man again in public. I am not saying they would of burned him at the stake, but they would never condone having the gentleman on the stage, pulpit, or political arena.
Think of where this society is heading. 
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LW was not. He is held to the same standard by God that we are.
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Sorry but the scripture states be not many teachers because they will have the greater condemnation. Which simply means don't take the job if you can't handle the heat. Ministers are put in positions the same as doctors, and lawyers. If anyone of these positions violate those who are trusting them they could face jail. In God's book those who take the job as minister must first count the cost and fully understand what he is getting himself into. God is the one who calls a man, and so my question is where is a man's mind at when he is looking at porn on the web, or having sex with a minor in who he was intrusted with?
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
God is the one than can demands an apology not me. But there is another point that people forget also, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Who am I to say that someone owes me an apology when God is the only ones that knows another's heart? But I agree if a church, any church allows someone in their pulpit or on their platform that is living a sinful life it is wrong. And yes we do have to take a stand NOW against sin, any sin. And thank God there are many that do.
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Amen.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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01-10-2008, 09:32 PM
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I'm still trying to get Carrol Burnett out of my head after seeing the title of this thread.........
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Makes me think of Cohen Burnett.
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01-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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Or how about Harvey Cohen?
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