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03-01-2009, 05:23 PM
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
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Originally Posted by Thad
i wouldn't doubt it one bit. the things I hear going on in the PAW and COGIC make the UPC look like angels!!! lol seriously
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03-01-2009, 07:55 PM
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
whoa!
wow!
man, this is big-- whoa!  
(just downloaded Bishop Brazier's Church "Doctrine" book.... Interesting, to say the least. |
Interesting?
Feel free to elaborate on that.
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03-01-2009, 11:14 PM
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
whoa!
wow!
man, this is big-- whoa!
(just downloaded Bishop Brazier's Church "Doctrine" book.... Interesting, to say the least. |
What is so interesting?
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03-02-2009, 11:49 AM
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
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Interesting?
Feel free to elaborate on that.
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What is so interesting?
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Interesting because I agree with him on salvation, in my heart.
I honestly believe that this knowledge is leading me to a place to where I would be distracted from the course that God has allowed me to take and be blessed in Him (I really do think it is His Will that I am here).
I'm really trying to commit my ways to the Lord so that my life makes some kind of sense, so that I can live out at least one of His purposes in the amount of time He has allotted me.
It's good and bad for me to know specifically about this church that has the same background as I and yet believes and teaches as I do now.
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04-24-2010, 12:27 AM
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
The PAW was tolerant way too long and these guys have helped destroy the oldest Oneness organization in America. Their false doctrine that excuses their lifestyle was a prelude to embracing other false doctrines and overtures to the Trinitarian movement in general. The PAW should say good riddance.
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you are just rude person just because u don't black people you want the PAW to say good riddance. what about upci, gateway and all other Apostolic organizations it started with PAW and it is going to end with PAW. there is no such thing as the Trinty there is only ONE GOD & HE'S NAME IS JESSSUSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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04-24-2010, 12:37 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
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Originally Posted by apostolicbaby
you are just rude person just because u don't black people you want the PAW to say good riddance. what about upci, gateway and all other Apostolic organizations it started with PAW and it is going to end with PAW. there is no such thing as the Trinty there is only ONE GOD & HE'S NAME IS JESSSUSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Simmer, Simmer...down. Epley hasn't posted on here in a while and that post was long ago. Are you new to AFF?
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04-24-2010, 08:39 AM
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
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Originally Posted by apostolicbaby
you are just rude person just because u don't black people you want the PAW to say good riddance. what about upci, gateway and all other Apostolic organizations it started with PAW and it is going to end with PAW. there is no such thing as the Trinty there is only ONE GOD & HE'S NAME IS JESSSUSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What does "U don't black people"?
I doubt it's going to end with PAW.
Why do you even bring up him not liking black people? Where do you get that from his post?
Some wear there race on their shoulders and way too sensitive making taking issue when no issue to take.
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04-24-2010, 08:52 AM
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
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Originally Posted by apostolicbaby
you are just rude person just because u don't black people you want the PAW to say good riddance. what about upci, gateway and all other Apostolic organizations it started with PAW and it is going to end with PAW. there is no such thing as the Trinty there is only ONE GOD & HE'S NAME IS JESSSUSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh I see the race card gets played even on religious forums! So I am curious. If a black person says anything critical about a predominantly white Pentecostal org. is he a racist?
Chill out. If you are not adult enough to discuss people and org.'s don't post here. You sound just like those who says to anybody that criticizes any policy of the Obama administration "you are just racist". Absurd!
If you had actually read (or perhaps comprehended) Elder Epley's post you would have seen he revered the PAW of old and was only lamenting that it has changed doctrinally over the years.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-24-2010, 11:27 AM
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
What does "U don't black people" mean?
I doubt it's going to end with PAW.
Why do you even bring up him not liking black people? Where do you get that from his post?
Some wear their race on their shoulders and way too sensitive taking issue when there's no issue to take.
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corrected post. I can kill a post with type errors. 
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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11-16-2010, 01:54 PM
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Re: PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leavin
skipped pages 12 - 13 (I think, it was about 30 minutes ago, before I registered) so I may be saying what has already been stated, but:
Bishop Noel Jones has not left the PAW.
Also, there should be no problem with Oneness preachers taking over Triny churches, the only ones I know of who have done this have made them into Oneness churches = Victory!
I was born and raised PAW, there are a variety of degrees in everything there, PAW leadership is not structured to have true authority over local assemblies so it's hard to control what happens other than putting them out of the org. There are many generalizations about the PAW in this thread that are simply inaccurate. The vast majority of PAW churches are quite solid, there are, of course, exceptions.
I have found the PAW to be quite useless as far as functioning for the purposes that lead people to work together. I think it has become a place to send money and not much more, but most of the individual churches are good.
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