Looks like you missed it twice. he wasnt saying he was shocked by you libs taking potshots at TFT. he was asking that you stop hammering Very Conservitive preachers for being very conservitive when your exception isnt with them being very conservitive.
your issue is with anyone who crosses your line that any standard is a bad standard.
Thanks, Ferd, for seeing it and summarizing it succinctly.
By the way, my posts weren't singling out CC1 or Newman at all. More the contrary, as I have respect for both as individuals and posters (they're the nicest wrong-headed people I know )
I really took issue with a couple of one-liner cavalier dismissals by some I've never interacted with...as well as a memory of nfcf in its less than finer moments.
As noted I am basically a trinitarian... and by the way I don't read Rick Warren...
The point is for someone who loathes trinitarians, I find it funny he would reference the intellect and thoughts of one in his sermon... he uses the status, and credibility of Tertullian to give strength to his argument ...seems funny to me
When did you want to have that debate on your Theology vs Oneness? I am sure I can find someone suitable
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very good post, the outward holiness thing is so different from church to church in the UPC.
John Kershaws church is a good example, the ladies can wear small ear rings and pink lip stick.
Who is John Kershaw? Where does he Pastor, and is he in fact a member of the UPC? If so why does he remain a member with these standards?
Who is John Kershaw? Where does he Pastor, and is he in fact a member of the UPC? If so why does he remain a member with these standards?
He was on the Texas Board not sure if he still is, when I sang at his church.
His church is in the Dallas area.
You may not realize this but many UPC churches have their own set of standards. The Pastor makes the guidelines and they follow.
It all can't be heaven or hell, they are all so inconsistant.
When I went to Manguns church, when there was a ski trip we all wore ski suits. Now thats PANTS!
We kept warm, thanks God AM has sense!
TF Tenney is a good man. Sensible...I heard pastors tell me that when they first were asked to sign the ministerial agreement that told them to not watch tv, etc that he told them to sign the card, keep living their lives, and reach people with the Gospel of Christ. Now, I admit I heard this second hand - but it seems like he has his priorities as a leader right, even if he is more conservative than some. he would rather maintain fellowship than judge someone for having a tv, or not ascribing to his personal beliefs.
He was on the Texas Board not sure if he still is, when I sang at his church.
His church is in the Dallas area.
You may not realize this but many UPC churches have their own set of standards. The Pastor makes the guidelines and they follow.
It all can't be heaven or hell, they are all so inconsistant.
When I went to Manguns church, when there was a ski trip we all wore ski suits. Now thats PANTS!
We kept warm, thanks God AM has sense!
Thanks, Ferd, for seeing it and summarizing it succinctly.
By the way, my posts weren't singling out CC1 or Newman at all. More the contrary, as I have respect for both as individuals and posters (they're the nicest wrong-headed people I know )
I really took issue with a couple of one-liner cavalier dismissals by some I've never interacted with...as well as a memory of nfcf in its less than finer moments.
You are welcome. I am with you CC1 and Newman are some of the best wrong-headed people on AFF!
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