Removing Zionism From the Chruch

[n david]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Mind Control as in your mind is a battlefield
you need to be transformed by the renewing of your mind
your mind needs to be washed by the word
you fight the enemy by memorizing scripture so you can quote it
stuff like that

Thought someone was reading L. Ron Hubbard!

[Amanah]

I'm adding this here for a reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motive...ber_11_attacks
Bin Laden's stated reason for 9/11: The expansion of Israel is one of the greatest crimes, and you are the leaders of its criminals. And of course there is no need to explain and prove the degree of American support for Israel. The creation of Israel is a crime which must be erased. Each and every person whose hands have become polluted in the contribution towards this crime must pay its price, and pay for it heavily
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
Christian Zionism is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy. The term began to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding Christian Restorationism.

Traditional Catholic thought did not consider Zionism in any form. Christian advocacy of the restoration of the Jews arose following the Protestant Reformation. A contemporary Israeli historian suggests that evangelical Christian Zionists of the 1840s "passed this notion on to Jewish circles",while Jewish nationalism in the early 19th century was widely regarded with hostility by British Jews.

Some Christian Zionists believe that the gathering of the Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christians as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy, has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation

[aegsm76]

23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,
26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:“The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them when I take away their sins.”[g]
28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,
29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience,
31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you.
32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,
26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:“The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them when I take away their sins.”[g]
28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,
29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience,
31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you.
32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

This is not speaking of the people called "Jews" today. They are not only not spiritual Israel, they are not even ethnic Israel.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Originalist

That false view is the evil twin of the equally absurd theory that says whites of the British isles are the lost northern tribes.

Every black person that I have ever met caught up in that doctrine also appear to feel that black people are God's Chosen people and that the black race is superior to all other heathens.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Esaias

This is not speaking of the people called "Jews" today. They are not only not spiritual Israel, they are not even ethnic Israel.

And we will agree to disagree.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Amanah

along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christians as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy

I don't know about prophecy, but Jews need Christ as much as any of us do.

[CalledOut238]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

link
https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/02/h...-judaized.html

snippet
Socialism and communism. are products of organized Jewry. They make the masses dependent on government, increase the debt, get their lackeys elected and provide comfy jobs for their followers. They provide a pretext for embezzling ("redistributing") wealth.

Interesting.

So you moved up from making veiled threats to being a sleuth. I have no problem admitting that I used a reference from Henry Makow. I use references from the bible too.

Proverbs 11:23 The desire of the righteous is only good: but the expectation of the wicked is wrath.

Sealh

[AllScripture]

Great link to share aegsm76 - www.henrymakow.com. Christians need to visit that site often - I do!

The real "Jews" of today are the spiritual seed of Abraham.

Galatians 3:14 - That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Galatians 3:16 - Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Galatians 3:26-29 - For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Romans 2:28-29 - For he is not a Jew which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Romans 8:14 - For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God...

1 Peter 2:9 - But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, and holy nation, a peculiar people...

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Jito463

I don't know about prophecy, but Jews need Christ as much as any of us do.

of course, they are sinners that need Jesus just like the rest of us.