Selling Out to Cash In.... Ex-Apostolics... - Page 17

SDG · #**161** 05-25-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

When have we said that?? Read too much into things lately?

It's disgusting ... if you ask me ... it's either blatant illiteracy or bearing false witness ... or both ....

SDG · #**162** 05-25-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I do no such thing. This is what Peter preached at Pentecost, and you can't handle it, and can't get around it. There is no erasing it, or watering it down. It is what it is.

1. Repent and
2. Be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sins,
3. And ye shall receive.

It is not my truth - though I fully embrace it. It is God's holy Word.

I preach the same thing ... ironic huh .... do those ecclesiastical garbs come in orange????

Nahum · #**163** 05-25-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

When have we said that?? Read too much into things lately?

First of all, Daniel believes baptism is a Christian rite akin to footwashing. If you get around to it, well hooray for you. He thinks you should obey it, but it is not a necessary action.

By saying and believing this, he denies the power of the name in baptism.

"GL" · #**164** 05-25-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Nope.

Here's what disturbs me about this repetitive conversation with Daniel and others who have left what they once proclaimed as truth.

They deny the power of the name in baptism. They deny the fact that God's Spirit comes with signs following. They deny everything aside from repentance is essential to salvation.

And here is the kicker. They then go on to say that we are part of the same movement.

Hogwash.

For once, why not call it what it is? They have returned to a pre-twentieth century understanding of Oneness Pentecostalism, and true Apostolic power is absent from that understanding. They have rejected the basic tenants of the Apostolic faith. They have embraced the greater whoredom of Christendom in the name of ecumenicalism and tolerance.

I agree. Doesn't seem like the apostles doctrine at all to me...

SDG · #**165** 05-25-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

First of all, Daniel believes baptism is a Christian rite akin to footwashing. If you get around to it, well hooray for you.He thinks you should obey it, but it is not a necessary action.

By saying and believing this, he denies the power of the name in baptism.

More false witness.

Jack Shephard · #**166** 05-25-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I do no such thing. This is what Peter preached at Pentecost, and you can't handle it, and can't get around it. There is no erasing it, or watering it down. It is what it is.

1. Repent and
2. Be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sins,
3. And ye shall receive.

It is not my truth - though I fully embrace it. It is God's holy Word.

Where along the way did Pete tell them what to do to be saved? Oh yeah in Acts 2:21.

Charlie Brown · #**167** 05-25-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

What does one do to receive ??? The gift of the HG is given my dear friend ....

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Only to those that obey the gospel.

Please tell me biblically how one "obeys" the gospel.

Bump for Daniel

SDG · #**168** 05-25-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Bump for Daniel

I'm still reveling in who you really are ....

Nahum · #**169** 05-25-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I preach the same thing ... ironic huh .... do those ecclesiastical garbs come in orange????

Why do you ride this merry-go-round Daniel. You believe no such thing! If you did, you would have no problem with the classic UPC stance.

But we all know you do have a huge problem with it, don't we? It's because you don't believe the same thing. Why speak out of both sides of your mouth? If you don't believe the baptism by water or by Holy Ghost infilling (evidenced with tongues), that is your perogative. But why attack the very thing you say you agree with?

The reason is you don't agree with me. We are not of the same movement.

Charlie Brown · #**170** 05-25-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I disagree with you, unless of course they never believed Apostolic doctrine to begin with.

If I believe that it takes Jesus name Baptism, and the infilling of the holy ghost to make it, and then I go on TBN and lead sinners in a "sinners prayer", and then tell them they are saved, do I really believe what I used to??

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Have you seen this happen? Or are you going on others word? I watch TBN all the time and esspecially when any of the "ex's" are on there. I have seen them lead in the sinners prayer, for repentance. I have never seen them or heard them say now you are saved.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Tommy Tenney
Randy Phillips
Steve Munsey

I am sure I could think of others given the time. These were UPCI men (not sure if Phillips carried a license)

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

You have seen them pray the Roman Road and then say now you are saved? give me break.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

My bad. I have not heard all of them "ON TBN" itself. But yes, I have heard all three of them do it.

Bump for JTullock