I think if more people would listen to what Brother Epley is saying here, instead of developeing arguments to hang on to what every they are feeling, they just might get past some serious troble in their lives.
I really feel for everyone (like me and Brother Epley) who have suffered at the hands of either Ministry or Saints. I also want everyone to find healing and a close walk with God..... and what Brother Epley is saying is the very best way to achieve those 2 things.
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I was not hurt, but later realized I was not healthy.
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Originally Posted by COOPER
For those concerned about the hurts I have......I can honestly say I did not leave the UPCI because of a hurt.
I moved to Amarillo while my old UPC church was going through a change of how standards were taught and viewed.
I moved to Amarillo with my Pastors blessing as new thinking UPC man concerning Holiness doctrines.
My old Church was very Black gospel and contemporary in music.
We were almost 1/2 white 1/2 black mixed with Spanish/Latino.
When I moved to Amarillo and visited Elms and Johnson's church it was very backward from want I knew as UPC for the last Seventeen years.
Also with the new way I viewed standards; I knew..... I could not and would not be involved in UPC anymore.
I just did not agree anymore and I knew it was Gods will not to live the UPC anymore and that he has something better.
After time I began to look back on my UPC life and realized I was put through Allot of UN-necessary doctrines.
It greived my soul to know that some of the doctrines I fought to hold to; were not truth.
I think if more people would listen to what Brother Epley is saying here, instead of developeing arguments to hang on to what every they are feeling, they just might get past some serious troble in their lives.
I really feel for everyone (like me and Brother Epley) who have suffered at the hands of either Ministry or Saints. I also want everyone to find healing and a close walk with God..... and what Brother Epley is saying is the very best way to achieve those 2 things.
As I said, I understand what Bro. Epley is saying now and I totally agree; however, his prior posts seemed to indicate that he thought that people should just "get over it" quickly without allowing some time for healing.
Now let's cut to the chase have you read this thread???? Some folks here are absolute prisoners of their real or percieved hurts which has kept them bound for years. Surely you do not think this is healthy spiritually or mentally? Depression when nutured very long will grow and not deminish until folks start turning to drugs that give temporary help but long term effects and sometimes slavery. There has to be a time that a person does have to let it go. That is NOT cold that is a fact.
Yes, I've read this thread; and yes, I agree that perhaps some have been bound for years.
But let me ask you this, is there ever a time where a wound that has not healed properly or appropriately needs to be re-opened to allow for proper healing?
I don't believe in coddling which unnecessarily prolongs the pain. But I do believe in allowing a person to experience the entire process of healing. What that process is differs from person to person, injury to injury; even the same injury differs from person to person. It's a judgement call in every instance, I believe. Like I stated before, one size does not fit all.
Cut from another thread.
I was not hurt, but later realized I was not healthy.
Coop, thanks for that. I didnt have you in mind. Ive talked enough to you to konw that your pastor and you had a good relationship so while, you have come to some conclusions that I dont agree with, I have never seen you as one who did so from a position of hurt. For that I am glad.
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As I said, I understand what Bro. Epley is saying now and I totally agree; however, his prior posts seemed to indicate that he thought that people should just "get over it" quickly without allowing some time for healing.
if you read his first post, i think it would be more clear. I am glad we can reason together.
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Yes, I've read this thread; and yes, I agree that perhaps some have been bound for years.
But let me ask you this, is there ever a time where a wound that has not healed properly or appropriately needs to be re-opened to allow for proper healing?
I don't believe in coddling which unnecessarily prolongs the pain. But I do believe in allowing a person to experience the entire process of healing. What that process is differs from person to person, injury to injury; even the same injury differs from person to person. It's a judgement call in every instance, I believe. Like I stated before, one size does not fit all.
Leaving the UPC is like experincing a death of a Loved one.
There are steps or phases you go through. Rhoni could list those steps.
Or even simular to going through a divorce. {I have never been thru one}
Yes, I've read this thread; and yes, I agree that perhaps some have been bound for years.
But let me ask you this, is there ever a time where a wound that has not healed properly or appropriately needs to be re-opened to allow for proper healing?
I don't believe in coddling which unnecessarily prolongs the pain. But I do believe in allowing a person to experience the entire process of healing. What that process is differs from person to person, injury to injury; even the same injury differs from person to person. It's a judgement call in every instance, I believe. Like I stated before, one size does not fit all.
Please do not be offended but I think you have allowed your thinking to be colored with pop psyco-babble of today's victim culture instead of just standing on the promises and the provisions provided by God in His healing provided for the wounded spirits. No ALL cases are not the same but years of depression are not the will of God in the life of any saint. Calvary and it's provisions does fit ALL. The process is give it to God it might take some time for me to be willing to let Him have it but somewhere if it is not given to God it will become a prison. The purpose of the annointing is Isa. 61:1-4, Luke 4:16-18. Freedom not bondage.
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