Do You Believe and/or Teach that Standards are Heaven-Hell Issues?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rrford

Uhm, what the scenario does not really tell is that a good many sinners have no idea how a conservative Pentecostal dresses. Only those who have been exposed to conservative Pentecost would know. With that in mind, I have to honestly say most folks in such a circumstance just want prayer, IMO.

rrford,
Haven't you heard that analogy used through the years? I have.

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

rrford,
Haven't you heard that analogy used through the years? I have.

Oh, I've heard it. Felt the same way then. The problem is that some folks want to deny that one can have a level of relationship with God and not have full truth. And they seemingly forget that God responds to faith from some of the most unlikely of vessels.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by rrford

Oh, I've heard it. Felt the same way then. The problem is that some folks want to deny that one can have a level of relationship with God and not have full truth. And they seemingly forget that God responds to faith from some of the most unlikely of vessels.

Exactly!

And....we're not even discussing the fact that just because someone is dressed that way (UPC-looking) their hearts are right! We won't even go there.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rrford

Oh, I've heard it. Felt the same way then. The problem is that some folks want to deny that one can have a level of relationship with God and not have full truth. And they seemingly forget that God responds to faith from some of the most unlikely of vessels.

Amen and Amen!!!

[tv1a]

Obvously you don't know what's happening at our church. We've had people filled with the Holy Ghost and baptized in Jesus Name almost every service. At least one service a week there is a testimony of deliverance from drugs, alcohol, nicotine. Testimonies of healings from ulcers to cancers occur almost every service. We've had more tongues and interpretations in the past six weeks than you've had at your church the past 10 years combined. Other gifts of the Spirt have been evident every service. We had a staff meeting for all the staff and for those who wanted to serve on the staff. A lady who has been coming to church for a little over a month came to the meeting. We had a Holy Ghost breakout and she got the Holy Ghost. We've seen devils cast out of people. I serve the children's ministry and the past two months we've seen almost a dozen children get baptized in Jesus Name and filled w/the Holy Ghost. What am I missing? Oh yeah... One guy who was blind in one eye for three years regained his sight, and the spot on his lung that was cancer for some reason disappeared. Financial miracles are happening. God is providing jobs for our church members in the county with the highest unemployment rate in the state. The public school system allows our church in the schools and doesn't stop us from witnessing in the hallways. As a result of my wife's work with our local PTO, we've had one family come to our church. God has provided favor for us to be influential in our community. My wife was recently elected PTO president. My daughter's participation in local sports have resulted in some her friends getting the Holy Ghost. We outgrew the prison recreation room in our prison ministry. We are looking to secure bigger facilities for the increasing numbers of prisoners that are coming to the prison services. Got a standing offer to air our services free of charge on local television and radio stations. We had a upci missionary at our church last week who was so bound by tradition he couldn't worship. He moved from the front row to the back. Our new converts worshipped circles around this guy.

No one can wear the demonstration of the power of the Holy Ghost.

We give people an alternative to the phoney blue denim whale crowd that has nothing to offer but a poor pitiful life serving Christ. The life that are two steps away from the vow of poverty the catholics take. Thank God there aren't many of self righteous people at our church.

Originally Posted by OGIA

What's your church's excuse?

[Thumper]

Well, I'm just trying not to get kicked out of the UPC so I guess I better just preach what they tell me to

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Thumper

Well, I'm just trying not to get kicked out of the UPC so I guess I better just preach what they tell me to

[tv1a]

The Bible says you'll be known by their fruit. Some think that scripture says fruitcake. If you want your dress code to be your drawing card then expect the fruitcake label.

Originally Posted by Old Paths

OP tv1a

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Thumper

Well, I'm just trying not to get kicked out of the UPC so I guess I better just preach what they tell me to

Felicity told us today you weren't in the UPC!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Obvously you don't know what's happening at our church. We've had people filled with the Holy Ghost and baptized in Jesus Name almost every service. At least one service a week there is a testimony of deliverance from drugs, alcohol, nicotine. Testimonies of healings from ulcers to cancers occur almost every service. We've had more tongues and interpretations in the past six weeks than you've had at your church the past 10 years combined. Other gifts of the Spirt have been evident every service. We had a staff meeting for all the staff and for those who wanted to serve on the staff. A lady who has been coming to church for a little over a month came to the meeting. We had a Holy Ghost breakout and she got the Holy Ghost. We've seen devils cast out of people. I serve the children's ministry and the past two months we've seen almost a dozen children get baptized in Jesus Name and filled w/the Holy Ghost. What am I missing? Oh yeah... One guy who was blind in one eye for three years regained his sight, and the spot on his lung that was cancer for some reason disappeared. Financial miracles are happening. God is providing jobs for our church members in the county with the highest unemployment rate in the state. The public school system allows our church in the schools and doesn't stop us from witnessing in the hallways. As a result of my wife's work with our local PTO, we've had one family come to our church. God has provided favor for us to be influential in our community. My wife was recently elected PTO president. My daughter's participation in local sports have resulted in some her friends getting the Holy Ghost. We outgrew the prison recreation room in our prison ministry. We are looking to secure bigger facilities for the increasing numbers of prisoners that are coming to the prison services. Got a standing offer to air our services free of charge on local television and radio stations. We had a upci missionary at our church last week who was so bound by tradition he couldn't worship. He moved from the front row to the back. Our new converts worshipped circles around this guy.

No one can wear the demonstration of the power of the Holy Ghost.

We give people an alternative to the phoney blue denim whale crowd that has nothing to offer but a poor pitiful life serving Christ. The life that are two steps away from the vow of poverty the catholics take. Thank God there aren't many of self righteous people at our church.

I am thrilled about your testimony on how God is moving in your church.

I think the emboldened part is too broad brushed to suit me. Even though I don't agree with some things and I don't consider standards salvational, I'm not a Blue Denim Whale and I don't feel pitiful.