When Will A Respected and Influential Leader Speak

[Steve Epley]

Fact: the majority on this forum does not believe it is wrong for a woman to cut her hair. Thus any absurdity that can be associated with those who teach against women cutting their hair gets headlines here.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

And it's becoming silliness, masquerading as concern.
Fact is, when false doctrines arise, we aren't to address them with foolishness.

"it's becoming silliness, masquerading as concern."

I could hardly have said it better myself.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

I don't mind humor, my problem isn't with you personally RW... just so you know.

The whole debunk the magic holy hair stuff isn't coming from people who appreciate the uncut ladies hair and want to keep the doctrines pure.

And it's becoming silliness, masquerading as concern.
Fact is, when false doctrines arise, we aren't to address them with foolishness.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Fact: the majority on this forum does not believe it is wrong for a woman to cut her hair. Thus any absurdity that can be associated with those who teach against women cutting their hair gets headlines here.

Both very true!

[Jermyn Davidson]

So many "Apostolic" people think they are better than, holier than, and better than other Christians because of, in part, the "convictions" they live their lives by.

If there was any impurity in intentions by the poster of this thread, maybe it is a response to the years of ugliness that many of us have personally witnessed while associated with some of God's misguided children.

"Not a sermon, just a thought."
-McLean Bible Church

[RandyWayne]

I don't mind humor, my problem isn't with you personally RW... just so you know.

The whole debunk the magic holy hair stuff isn't coming from people who appreciate the uncut ladies hair and want to keep the doctrines pure.

And it's becoming silliness, masquerading as concern.
Fact is, when false doctrines arise, we aren't to address them with foolishness.

I hear what your saying but I think some of the concern is that people who don't think the magic hair thing is as dangerous as others is because it just happens to fit in (or be more compatible) with the uncut hair doctrine. In other words, to a degree it reinforces the ultimate goal of keeping women from cutting their hair.
"If women don't see the need to keep your hair uncut for THIS reason, maybe they will for this one.... Wrong as it may be. The results are the same. And isn't that all that matters?"

[MissBrattified]

Maybe I'm just not editing myself well enough, but I don't think I've posted a single thought that is mean spirited, or less than honest. Furthermore, I don't cut my hair, so I'm not posting in an effort to discredit that practice.

Bro. Epley, when liberals, moderates and ultra-conservatives such as yourself all agree that a belief is unbiblical, that opinion ought to have merit.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Fact: the majority on this forum does not believe it is wrong for a woman to cut her hair. Thus any absurdity that can be associated with those who teach against women cutting their hair gets headlines here.

There are some here that believe that a woman's hair should be uncut. My problem is not that belief. There is room to debate both positions. My problem is the line of reasoning that is used by LS and company.

[tstew]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

There is a history that perhaps you are unaware of TS ... it's roots come from two popular books of two popular ladies conference teachers.

One of the major teachers is a licensed UPCI minister named Ruth Reider ... her website http://www.positivepowerofholiness.com

Her book Power Before the Throne is foundational to this doctrine ....

I ask you to read:
http://holymagichair.blogspot.com/20...er-before.html

Another book is "My Hair, My Glory" by Juli Jasinski ... She has even taught at General Conference.

Pastor Poster shares his thoughts on this book here:
http://holymagichair.blogspot.com/20...t-witches.html

The influence of these books has permeated to other women teaching and believing this.

DA, I guess as I read these posts, my feelings are tempered by the fact that I know with absolute certainty that my UPC pastor will never get up and preach that nothing else in the Bible matters but your long hair (as I have heard it characterized here. If I was a betting man I would put my right arm on it. I would put my left arm and both of my legs on the fact that I will never preach that behind any UPC pulpit. I know some pretty crazy preachers and teachers, but I can't think offhand of anyone who would teach that.
I have heard the teaching for long hair on women be effective for years without resorting to this and also in conjunction with teaching all of the components of a Godly woman. I have mainly responded to the "sky is falling" and they teach that "obeying your pastor, husband, and abstaining from fornication, etc...don't matter as long as your hair is long.

[Jermyn Davidson]

This reminds me of the time I heard a man testify about how he wanted the Holy Ghost, prayed for the infilling, service after service after service. Then, once he shaved his beard, he was filled with the Holy Ghost.

Maybe what he says he experienced is what he experienced for real. But his testimony gives credence to the idea that somehow God favors a clean shaven man over a bearded man-- somehow that if a man shaves his face, God will hear his prayers and fill him with the Holy Ghost.

This too, is unbiblical, but passively embraced among some of us, Apostolics.

[Mrs. LPW]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Maybe I'm just not editing myself well enough, but I don't think I've posted a single thought that is mean spirited, or less than honest. Furthermore, I don't cut my hair, so I'm not posting in an effort to discredit that practice.

Bro. Epley, when liberals, moderates and ultra-conservatives such as yourself all agree that a belief is unbiblical, that opinion ought to have merit.

I've been around long enough to know this about you MissB!

And you've done nothing but state your feelings and points eloquently and with class.