if "Ayers did despicalble things when Obama was in short pants" was all there was to it, I would agree with you.
if he and Ayers sat on boards together was all there was to it, I would agree with you.
BUT that aint all there is.
Obama's offical launching of his candidacy for state representative took place at Ayers HOME.
AFTER he began running for President, Obama stated that he and Ayers "were friends".
its a bit more involved than Ayers doing bad stuff when Barak was a baby.
Ferd, you may want to do some personal research into claims and not rely on sound bites.
In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district's influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn....
"I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers' house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress," said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the informal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. "[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor."
This was not Barak Obama choosing a location to launch anything. This was an incumbent choosing the home of an influential local politician.
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Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
The New York Times has a rundown on William Ayer's controversial past, as well as his loose ties with Barack Obama:
Mr. Ayers is listed as a member of the nine-member board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an offshoot of the Woods Charitable Fund, founded in 1941 by a prominent lawyer and telephone company executive. According to the fund's Web site, it has focused in recent years on "issues that affected the area's least advantaged, including welfare reform, affordable housing" and "tax policy as a tool in reducing poverty."
For a time, Mr. Obama was on the board with Mr. Ayers, though he no longer has a formal association with the group. At the debate, he described Mr. Ayers as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," but "not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis." Mr. Obama said he was being unjustly linked to "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
For justification for Obama offering Presidential level talks with the Iranians he sites the precident of JKF meeting with Nikita Khruschev as reason for his meeting with Iran's president.
the JKF/Khruschev meeting took place in 1961 and was something Kennedy felt very strongly about doing. That meeting left Nikita Khruschev with a feeling that Kennedy was weak and shortly there after Khruschev began building a missile silo in Cuba.
We know that as the Cuban Missile Crisis. the Kennedy/Khruschev meeting was one of the biggest missteps of the cold war by the United States.
and THIS is Obamas justification for meeting with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Somebody explain to me how this "very smart" Harvard educated fellow Barak Obama can be both smart and incapable of understanding the nuance of history?
Please, raise your hand if that is what you want in a president.
really.... 'splain this.
i am on the edge of my seat!
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
Ferd, you may want to do some personal research into claims and not rely on sound bites.
In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district's influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn....
"I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers' house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress," said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the informal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. "[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor."
This was not Barak Obama choosing a location to launch anything. This was an incumbent choosing the home of an influential local politician.
Obamas' first run for office was in the home of a man he needed support from. a political ally a man whom Obama has called "friend" within the last year or so.
you can spin that nine ways from sunday. bottom line, Obama and Ayers are NOT simply 2 guys that served on boards together.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 1999 and 2002. In addition, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001, as reported here. They lived within a few blocks of each other in the trendy Hyde Park section of Chicago, and moved in the same liberal-progressive circles.
__________________
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
For justification for Obama offering Presidential level talks with the Iranians he sites the precident of JKF meeting with Nikita Khruschev as reason for his meeting with Iran's president.
the JKF/Khruschev meeting took place in 1961 and was something Kennedy felt very strongly about doing. That meeting left Nikita Khruschev with a feeling that Kennedy was weak and shortly there after Khruschev began building a missile silo in Cuba.
We know that as the Cuban Missile Crisis. the Kennedy/Khruschev meeting was one of the biggest missteps of the cold war by the United States.
and THIS is Obamas justification for meeting with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Somebody explain to me how this "very smart" Harvard educated fellow Barak Obama can be both smart and incapable of understanding the nuance of history?
Please, raise your hand if that is what you want in a president.
really.... 'splain this.
i am on the edge of my seat!
When was this meeting with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad scheduled?
For justification for Obama offering Presidential level talks with the Iranians he sites the precident of JKF meeting with Nikita Khruschev as reason for his meeting with Iran's president.
the JKF/Khruschev meeting took place in 1961 and was something Kennedy felt very strongly about doing. That meeting left Nikita Khruschev with a feeling that Kennedy was weak and shortly there after Khruschev began building a missile silo in Cuba.
We know that as the Cuban Missile Crisis. the Kennedy/Khruschev meeting was one of the biggest missteps of the cold war by the United States.
and THIS is Obamas justification for meeting with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Somebody explain to me how this "very smart" Harvard educated fellow Barak Obama can be both smart and incapable of understanding the nuance of history?
Please, raise your hand if that is what you want in a president.
really.... 'splain this.
i am on the edge of my seat!
__________________
A product of a pentecostal raisin, I am a hard man, just ask my children
The New York Times has a rundown on William Ayer's controversial past, as well as his loose ties with Barack Obama:
Mr. Ayers is listed as a member of the nine-member board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an offshoot of the Woods Charitable Fund, founded in 1941 by a prominent lawyer and telephone company executive. According to the fund's Web site, it has focused in recent years on "issues that affected the area's least advantaged, including welfare reform, affordable housing" and "tax policy as a tool in reducing poverty."
For a time, Mr. Obama was on the board with Mr. Ayers, though he no longer has a formal association with the group. At the debate, he described Mr. Ayers as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," but "not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis." Mr. Obama said he was being unjustly linked to "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."
my freind, quoting the new york times is at best a first cousin to quoting from a fiction novel and calling it reality.
I have heard Obama say the above quote. i have also seen the comment where obama has stated that he and Ayers were "friendly"
there are records of Obama and Ayers being together far more than Obama suggests.
Are you telling me that for the sake of winning a public office that you are fine with Obama announcing his bid in the home of a known terrorist?
Are you telling me that this is the standard a conservitive would be judged by?
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 1999 and 2002. In addition, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001, as reported here. They lived within a few blocks of each other in the trendy Hyde Park section of Chicago, and moved in the same liberal-progressive circles.
if my "circle" included a terrorist, I would shift to the nearest square.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
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