McCain renounces endorsements

[Michael The Disciple]

Mccain:

"My thoughts are that I think that people should be able to enter into legal agreements and I think that that is something we should encourage....we have a respectful disagreement on this issue..."

He is being respectful for sure. But to what? An abomination. And he wants us to ENCOURAGE them entering into legal agreements. I guess such as if I am an employer I have to pay for homosexuals insurance. I have to pay benefits to something (homosexual lifestyle) that God says he turns men over to a reprobate mind over. I have defended Mccain many times both here and other forums. But I have always said I wanted to hear more of what he would do about homosexuality. There is such a thing as a bully pulpit. The Republicans have become spineless and cowardly on the issues that are important to me.

I want a Pres who will at least speak up and say "My personal belief is that homosexuality is wrong and immoral". Mccain said he disagreed with her yes. But he never spoke about the issue AT ALL. Just that he and others disagree. That is way to timid. He's lost my vote. I would say hes lost many others also by that performance.

The Dems are BOLD about what they believe. Not ashamed. Thats the way he came across to me. Yes he has some areas I agree with but this is just to big an issue to the Lord. Everyone has those issues that are important to them.

To Mccain it seems to be low taxes, NAFTA, improving the lives of illegal aliens and defence. Thats a package many are ok with. But the things I care MOST ABOUT he is lukewarm on.

God will eventually devestate America for the murder of the unborn and the toleration of homosexuality. Yes there are many other sins. Its just that when a nation gets so low as to allow such evil they are getting very close to judgment. He is already sending wrath on this nation. A little here a little there. Soon it will be crushing blows that the nation cannot withstand.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

He is being respectful for sure. But to what? An abomination. And he wants us to ENCOURAGE them entering into legal agreements. I guess such as if I am an employer I have to pay for homosexuals insurance. I have to pay benefits to something (homosexual lifestyle) that God says he turns men over to a reprobate mind over. I have defended Mccain many times both here and other forums. But I have always said I wanted to hear more of what he would do about homosexuality. There is such a thing as a bully pulpit. The Republicans have become spineless and cowardly on the issues that are important to me.

I want a Pres who will at least speak up and say "My personal belief is that homosexuality is wrong and immoral". Mccain said he disagreed with her yes. But he never spoke about the issue AT ALL. Just that he and others disagree. That is way to timid. He's lost my vote. I would say hes lost many others also by that performance.

The Dems are BOLD about what they believe. Not ashamed. Thats the way he came across to me. Yes he has some areas I agree with but this is just to big an issue to the Lord. Everyone has those issues that are important to them.

To Mccain it seems to be low taxes, NAFTA, improving the lives of illegal aliens and defence. Thats a package many are ok with. But the things I care MOST ABOUT he is lukewarm on.

So don't vote.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

He is being respectful for sure. But to what? An abomination. And he wants us to ENCOURAGE them entering into legal agreements. I guess such as if I am an employer I have to pay for homosexuals insurance. I have to pay benefits to something (homosexual lifestyle) that God says he turns men over to a reprobate mind over. I have defended Mccain many times both here and other forums. But I have always said I wanted to hear more of what he would do about homosexuality. There is such a thing as a bully pulpit. The Republicans have become spineless and cowardly on the issues that are important to me.

I want a Pres who will at least speak up and say "My personal belief is that homosexuality is wrong and immoral". Mccain said he disagreed with her yes. But he never spoke about the issue AT ALL. Just that he and others disagree. That is way to timid. He's lost my vote. I would say hes lost many others also by that performance.

The Dems are BOLD about what they believe. Not ashamed. Thats the way he came across to me. Yes he has some areas I agree with but this is just to big an issue to the Lord. Everyone has those issues that are important to them.

To Mccain it seems to be low taxes, NAFTA, improving the lives of illegal aliens and defence. Thats a package many are ok with. But the things I care MOST ABOUT he is lukewarm on.

God will eventually devestate America for the murder of the unborn and the toleration of homosexuality. Yes there are many other sins. Its just that when a nation gets so low as to allow such evil they are getting very close to judgment. He is already sending wrath on this nation. A little here a little there. Soon it will be crushing blows that the nation cannot withstand.

what is he supposed to say ?

you are an abomination in the eyes of God and a stench in his nostrils! I celebrate your eventual torment in hell!

?????

was that what you were wanting?

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Read it again skippy, I never said anything about Republicans working in a vacuum, I could have been advocating libertarianism.

I’d favor a Libertarian before a Republican. The Republicans are owned by corporate power, Libertarians focus on personal liberties. I can dig that.

You are wrong again, you are only supposing that democrats shelter small business. Take a look at State governments that have a democrat majority the MAJORITY of their legislation advocates social programs and they put the screws to ALL business. State needs more employees? Raise the taxes across the board for ALL companies regardless of size.

Imagine that…if the state needs new policemen to patrol the streets or to contract with construction companies to repair the roads and bridges someone has to pay for it…it’s not going to just materialize like you seem to think it will. There will be a cost. Now that cost is going to have to be shared by all, especially those who can afford it. Excessive taxes on your business might cause you to cut a couple jobs but you’ll continue to exist and adapt and those people will find new jobs. But if that tax burden is shifted to individuals…many of them are so strapped already by the cost of living (wages sure haven’t risen to match cost of living while CEO salaries and stock options have 400 times over) that if they were to shoulder the tax increase…they might loose their family home. Bro…don’t wine, it’s the cost of a civil society.

How many small businesses do you own there black-liquid spitter?

My uncle owns The Customizer (an automobile customizing shop on Airway Rd. in Dayton Oh). I spent the day in his office and we talked quite a bit of politics. He is a die hard Democrat because he feels the Republicans have left him, as a small business to rot. The Democrats have actually done more for him on the state side than the Republicans ever did. You have to understand…Ohio Republicans have been an abysmal failure with extensive corruption and financial mismanagement throughout the state system. It’s one reason why I’m so turned off about them. Thank God Gov. Strickland is running a more bipartisan and transparent governorship.

I can feel something poking me in the Levi Tag of my Jeans every month and it is my friendly local liberal democrat who hates me because I am trying to step up and provide jobs.

Just pay your taxes. Both Jesus and Paul admonished us to do so. :rollseyes

Here’s a thought…some business people think they’re entitled to special treatment because they’re businesses. No one is entitled to be a business owner. If you can’t pay your taxes and function…maybe business isn’t for you or you need to better manage your businesses finances.

Originally Posted by Carpenter

when you use the words National system, it causes me to laugh especially when I consider the efficiency of other divisions of Government, and you want them to handle health care?

I am not saying there is not a health care crisis, I am IN health care. However, I am not willing to pay higher taxes across the board because someone either refuses to work or use birth control.

That's because you don't see health care as a moral imparative.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I’d favor a Libertarian before a Republican.

this from the guy that advocates state run healthcare.

[Ferd]

Carpenter is my new hero.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Ferd

what is he supposed to say ?

you are an abomination in the eyes of God and a stench in his nostrils! I celebrate your eventual torment in hell!

?????

was that what you were wanting?

I quote me from that post:

I want a Pres who will at least speak up and say "My personal belief is that homosexuality is wrong and immoral".

Guess you did not read that part.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

That's because you don't see health care as a moral imparative.

I suppose you gather this from His eye is on the sparrow and all that...?

Moral imparative? Who pronounces what constitutes moral imparatives? YOU? The Democrats? Government?

True to your liberal position, you should be advocating survival of the species!

Now THAT is a moral imparative, survive or die.

Nonsense.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I quote me from that post:

I want a Pres who will at least speak up and say "My personal belief is that homosexuality is wrong and immoral".

Guess you did not read that part.

i generally skim long posts... I stand by my question.