This is my main complaint. In Missouri the dog kennels get picketed for doing this to puppies.
If there is evedence the law must follow it. But in the process they should be detaining perpetrators and suspects instead of victims.
Should be, but under state laws cannot. I believe the adult women should be able to be with the children too young to talk or testify but not at the compound.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
I understand this Rico, they are an offshoot of LDS and they have a right to relegious freedom's in this country just like any other. They do not however have the right to harm other's under the guise of their relegion. The state is not going after a relegion or church, they are actually going after criminals that are using relegious freedoms to commit crimes.
Sister, I am not defending them. I am looking at this situation through how the legal system may deal with the whole situation. I did this with the Terry Schiavo case too. It's easy to get caught up in what we feel, what we think, and how things should go. However, I know that this whole mess is eventually going to be settled in a court of law, not the court of public opinion.
Sister, I am not defending them. I am looking at this situation through how the legal system may deal with the whole situation. I did this with the Terry Schiavo case too. It's easy to get caught up in what we feel, what we think, and how things should go. However, I know that this whole mess is eventually going to be settled in a court of law, not the court of public opinion.
You are absolutely right, that is why the state has to be very careful how they handle this situation. I really am not sure how a jury or juries will respond to this either. And I am sure the orginazation will sue the state. And then some individual's as well. Which could drag this out for year's and the actual victim's will really be forgotten in all this.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Folks are painting the FLDS men as evil monsters. Other folks say that this was another Waco-type incident of intrusive fascist government bullying, but without the armed resistance. Still others point out that CPS is out of control all across the country, and is so well known for going off half-cocked and operating under the presumption of guilt even after innocence is proven, that CPS is a prime outlet for vindictiveness in our society today.
I have been attempting to understand this situation based on an understanding of the fallen nature of humankind. Looking at the various players in the scene, for starters we have the polygamists accused of statutory rape. Unregenerated man throughout history has sought out sex with females of all ages, males, animal species, and inanimate objects. Is it believable that underneath all that pioneer charm and piety lurks machinery for the satisfaction of lust? Sure. We don't actually KNOW what went on in there, for as of yet the alleged 16-year-old accuser has not been found. The refusal of mothers to point out their children, and vice-versa, is indicative that all is not well and they know it.
We have CPS accused of vague, unspecified wrongdoing. CPS is widely considered to be as corrupt and inefficient as any other bureaucracy. Similar abuse has and does occur in Foster homes. Does CPS have a financial interest in increasing their clientele and their visibility? Sure. The true believers within the ranks of the CPS would put some missionaries to shame with their fervor. The pure and the impure motives both drive the same actions for this group.
Then we have law enforcement. They are accused of acting on a whim, arresting and detaining all the wrong people, and violating their rights. Law enforcement is hanged if they do and hanged if they don't. But there's nothing like "rescuing" (detaining) 400 children to help justify one's existence. There are polygamous, abusive Islamics, and there are abusive illegal aliens, but it certainly appears strategic that they have chosen to invade and disrupt a group that exposes them to the least risk of media fallout: White nonconformist fundamentalists. Does the LE involved know that society is conditioned to dehumanize groups such as FLDS by Hollywood and mass media? Sure. LE gets to appear brave while not offending vocal special interests. Not exactly brave.
I make no apologies for child molesters.
This incident shows us that we are just one or two court cases away from cementing the notion that children are the property of the state.
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Despite today's rising cost of living, it remains popular.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
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I responded because you said, "If you purchase health care for yourself and you are overweight, you can be denied for that reason alone, even if you are in good health otherwise."
The bolded part led me to think you were talking about a policy that had already been purchased, not one someone was looking to purchase.
Right. I said that because you have to pay the first month when you sign up for it. If they reject you, they send you a refund.
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Right. I said that because you have to pay the first month when you sign up for it. If they reject you, they send you a refund.
Things like weight fall under qualifying for coverage before the application is ever written. I read your comment through the eyes of having been a health insurance agent. Whenever a policy application is written, the applicant has already been through a qualifying process, which includes stats, history, etc. The agent knows whether someone will qualify before he even writes the application. In other words, if Joe Blow wants health insurance, I take his information, run it past the underwriting department before I quote him a price, and then proceed to take the application, assuming he has already qualified for the policy. Anyway, it's a minor point at best.
Things like weight fall under qualifying for coverage before the application is ever written. I read your comment through the eyes of having been a health insurance agent. Whenever a policy application is written, the applicant has already been through a qualifying process, which includes stats, history, etc. The agent knows whether someone will qualify before he even writes the application. In other words, if Joe Blow wants health insurance, I take his information, run it past the underwriting department before I quote him a price, and then proceed to take the application, assuming he has already qualified for the policy. Anyway, it's a minor point at best.
I think it's pathetic that insurance companies have more say so in health care than doctors and medical professionals. If they don't think it's necessary, they won't cover it. If you already have a condition, they won't cover anything related to it.
It's horrible.
I'm writing a paper now on economics in health care. The stats are staggering.
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I think it's pathetic that insurance companies have more say so in health care than doctors and medical professionals. If they don't think it's necessary, they won't cover it. If you already have a condition, they won't cover anything related to it.
It's horrible.
I'm writing a paper now on economics in health care. The stats are staggering.
To a certain degree, I agree with you. However, insurance companies are in business for one purpose, to make money. That is the cold hard truth, but it's the truth none the less.
To a certain degree, I agree with you. However, insurance companies are in business for one purpose, to make money. That is the cold hard truth, but it's the truth none the less.
Between them and the oil companies, they both could run it all.....LOL!
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