Universal Health Care - Page 17

helen_febus · #**161** 02-16-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

Universal Health Care

A short but poignant independent film on government sponsored healthcare systems. Everyone who plans to vote for our new President in 2008 NEEDS to see this.

Regardless of the person for whom they would vote. Please forward this to everyone you can think of as soon as you can.

http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php

Someone sent this in an e-mail this morning. Has anyone seen it?
Any comments?

Falla39

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I don't think I would like such a system.

ReformedDave · #**162** 02-16-2008, 03:51 PM

The USA has done so well with Medicare, Medicaid, Medigap, and Social Security that I sure do think they can handle a national health system............They can't even balance their checkbook. That's what happens when you feed the beast. It gets bigger.

StMark · #**163** 02-16-2008, 03:57 PM

I'm patiently waiting for Brother Ron to come back and chime in with his thoughts

Ron · #**164** 02-16-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark

I'm patiently waiting for Brother Ron to come back and chime in with his thoughts

Is this bait???

Actually a dialog is when two parties are talking and listening.
Some just aren't listening & have been fed "propaganda" from the big drug, pharmaceutical & people who stand to make money on the status quo!

No one posting on here who has had "first hand" knowledge of our system has ever "dissed" what we have going--cuz they know the truth!

ReformedDave · #**165** 02-16-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Is this bait???

Actually a dialog is when two parties are talking and listening.
Some just aren't listening & have been fed "propaganda" from the big drug, pharmaceutical & people who stand to make money on the status quo!

No one posting on here who has had "first hand" knowledge of our system has ever "dissed" what we have going--cuz they know the truth!

There are flaws in both systems.

OP_Carl · #**166** 02-16-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ReformedDave

There are flaws in both systems.

You can't say THAT

Everybody knows socialists have the best of intentions!

Brother Ron I'm glad things are going well for you. The Canadians and Brits I have spoken with, as well as the tales relayed to me by truck driver friends who meet Canadian truckers, all have mentioned the waiting periods and the unpleasantness of some of the other constraints.

Ron · #**167** 02-16-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl

You can't say THAT

Everybody knows socialists have the best of intentions!

Brother Ron I'm glad things are going well for you. The Canadians and Brits I have spoken with, as well as the tales relayed to me by truck driver friends who meet Canadian truckers, all have mentioned the waiting periods and the unpleasantness of some of the other constraints.

An ER is not a place to take a sniffle!

I repeat, if there is a need, I go to my own Doctor or walk in clinic.
No wait.

When I broke my ankle at work in Sept & an Ambulance came is was deemed not "life threatening" so they did not speed or use the lights even though I begged.

The Paramedics did get an IV set up, the Surgeon saw me right away & I had the surgery with 30 hours only being bumped when A person started hemorrhaging.

I couldn't get surgery right away because I drank some water while waiting for the Ambulance as I felt nauseous.

Everyone has a scare story.

I have seen in the news about Hospitals dumping patients in the streets in the US!

OP_Carl · #**168** 02-16-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Everyone has a scare story.

I have seen in the news about Hospitals dumping patients in the streets in the US!

That's not a scare story. That's invigoration therapy!

ChristopherHall · #**169** 02-17-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark

medFICO scores?? not sure what you are talking about here.
If it was posted in one of those story book post,
trust me i didn't see it

TMI !!!!

It was a long post. Basically a medFICO score is a medical credit score that the industry is assigning everyone to help hospitals determine your likelihood of being able to pay your medical bill. Right now they're promising it will not be used at admission, only upon discharge to keep track of your medical debt and ability to pay or not pay. Consumer advocates are arguing that once in place there's nothing to prevent hospitals, doctors, or other provider.s from checking your score upon admission and triaging you according to your ability to pay. Those with a good score may be seen first while those with a low score may be forced to wait longer for care or even transfered to a different facility for those with lower scores.

They also point out that there is nothing to prevent employers from looking up this score as part of a hiring process to try and determine if you'd be too expensive of an employee to insure.

It's like a credit score being pulled before you buy a car or a house. Accept they pull this score and keep track of it as you seek medical services.

That's the future of private health care in America. I'm making this clear right here and now. I'm for Universal Health Insurance.

ChristopherHall · #**170** 02-17-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Is this bait???

Actually a dialog is when two parties are talking and listening.
Some just aren't listening & have been fed "propaganda" from the big drug, pharmaceutical & people who stand to make money on the status quo!

No one posting on here who has had "first hand" knowledge of our system has ever "dissed" what we have going--cuz they know the truth!

Amen. All they have is hear say, email rumors, and propaganda.