Why shouldn't I vote for Obama?? - Page 17

ChristopherHall · #**161** 02-11-2008, 01:51 AM

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I provided a video where Obama leads the entire Senate in the Pledge of Allegiance to America. And by the way...the Pledge was written by an American Christian Socialist, Francis Bellamy.[/QUOTE]

I don't believe that! our pledge of Allegiance is godly

If that's the case i suppose you wont pledge to the flag either???

how in the world did you get in the military with this kind of thinking Chris??? someone's been messing with your head bruh

My question is...would you repeat a Pledge of Allegiance written and inspired by a Socialist? LOL

Praxeas · #**162** 02-11-2008, 01:52 AM

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That is your words - not mine.

No your "logic" was that what their parents are statistically they become in part of a discussion to prove or disprove Obama is a Muslim.

His mother was Atheist. His step-father a Muslim. So what does that make him?

ChristopherHall · #**163** 02-11-2008, 01:53 AM

Some folks don't know their American history.

StMark · #**164** 02-11-2008, 01:55 AM

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My question is...would you repeat a Pledge of Allegiance written and inspired by a Socialist? LOL

many of the great reformers and revivalist embraced the oneness and baptized in Jesus Name. biased historians changed such facts with a slant bent towards their own views. Thus i believe could have well happned here

George · #**165** 02-11-2008, 01:58 AM

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Please show where Trinity Church's allegiance superceeds that of the US Pledge of Allegiance.*** (Side note, the Pledge of Allegiance was written by Francis Bellamy, a renown and self proclaimed Christian Socialist).********* I think they are just giving honor to their homeland bro.*** Their ancestors were brought here against their will.*** Allow them to at least honor their homeland.*** Bro, I think some of what they do i weird too...but I'm not of African heritage either.*** And hey...we're Apostolic.*** We have a dress standard too.*** And lots of people think we're weird too.*** LOL*** That's fair. I've considered that too.*** I'm part of a Union and they're solidly for Hillary.*** Bro...it wasn't a home video...it was from the Senate.*** LOL

Show me where his church gives any allegiance to America?Why don't you start wearing kilts all the time?*** Our church standards do not promote another country above the one we live in.You bring your own falsehoods trying to decieve.*** You think that is a senate video but it was not posted by the senate.*** It could have been altered.*** I'm not saying it was, but it doesn't hold weight with me.I am finished conversing with you.*** It is apparent you greatly desire the last word so have at it.*** I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!

StMark · #**166** 02-11-2008, 02:00 AM

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Show me where his church gives any allegiance to America?Why don't you start wearing kilts all the time?*** Our church standards do not promote another country above the one we live in.You bring your own falsehoods trying to decieve.*** You think that is a senate video but it was not posted by the senate.*** It could have been altered.*** I'm not saying it was, but it doesn't hold weight with me.I am finished conversing with you.*** It is apparent you greatly desire the last word so have at it.*** I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!

I was listening to Sean Hannity show recently and he pointed out several hostile anti american anti white comments that Obama's pastor has made. he had it one tape.

Praxeas · #**167** 02-11-2008, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark

I was listening to Sean Hannity show recently and he pointed out several hostile anti american anti white comments that Obama's pastor has made. he had it one tape.

And again, Mark that does not prove Obama is a Muslim. It might prove anti-americanism by the pastor or even anti-white agendas etc etc, be that as it may. Let fact be fact and lies be lies. There is no evidence Obama is a Muslim. Let the facts speak and base your decisions on facts.

George · #**168** 02-11-2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

No your "logic" was that what their parents are statistically they become in part of a discussion to prove or disprove Obama is a Muslim.

His mother was Atheist. His step-father a Muslim. So what does that make him?

During his formative years he was under his father's influence more than his mother because she was following the father. Whether he was in a radical Muslim school or ordinary Muslim school, they all indoctrinate the kids with the Muslim doctrine which happens to hate America.

Praxeas · #**169** 02-11-2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by George

During his formative years he was under his father's influence more than his mother because she was following the father. Whether he was in a radical Muslim school or ordinary Muslim school, they all indoctrinate the kids with the Muslim doctrine which happens to hate America.

She wasn't following the father. She was an Atheist, not a Muslim. Had she converted that would have said something to the young man. She did not. He was NOT in a Muslim school. You don't get it. It was NOT a Muslim school in the sense YOU are trying to paint it. It was a public school in a Muslim nation.

AND He did NOT go there all the time during those few years but to Catholic schools too...so what is he now? Catholic? Muslim? Athiest? My point is you have proven nothing in the way of trying to show that the man is a Muslim when he says he is not but is a Christian.

And you DOn'T know that he was indoctrinates AND this was a LONG LONG time ago before much of the Muslim world hated America as much as it does now

George · #**170** 02-11-2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark

I was listening to Sean Hannity show recently and he pointed out several hostile anti american anti white comments that Obama's pastor has made. he had it one tape.

You are right but you couldn't convince ChristopherHall of that. Obama's church is so controversial, he has tried to distance himself from the church for the sake of politics. In fact, his pastor was supposed to be on a platform with him at a big event and they cancelled his pastor coming because of how controversial his church is. OBAMA IS NO GOOD!!!!!!!! I can't understand why some people think because there was a false email circulating they must get so defensive and protective of Obama without finding out the facts.