QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

[CC1]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

My understanding is that the Tulsa event was simply an infommercial . They did have some join there, but the actual deal for joining is supposed to be in Branson.

This makes sense but I would have thought the pent up desire in all those unhappy conservatives would have made for a fast start in OK.

I do think that Coonskinner's point that a lot of conservatives are independent is correct and I would not be surprised if some of the unhappy conservative UPCers that the WWPF hoped to recruit end up leaving the UPC but to just become independent rather than joining the WWPF. Should be interesting to see what happens.

[tv1a]

The reoprts I've read said a number were independents in attendance. Of course I have to consider the source.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

The report is that there were relatively few independents there. It was mostly UPC preachers.

The average independent isn't interested in joining anything.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by CC1

This makes sense but I would have thought the pent up desire in all those unhappy conservatives would have made for a fast start in OK.

I do think that Coonskinner's point that a lot of conservatives are independent is correct and I would not be surprised if some of the unhappy conservative UPCers that the WWPF hoped to recruit end up leaving the UPC but to just become independent rather than joining the WWPF. Should be interesting to see what happens.

I think quite a few of those that left the UPC ARE staying independent. And some of those that were AMF have went independent as well. Organization is on its way out for many conservatives. They have in place the AMC for a conference to fellowship, and the IAM to send their mission offerings through. Most of them already have a network of fellowship. They simply do not need politics any more.

[ogatt]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I think quite a few of those that left the UPC ARE staying independent. And some of those that were AMF have went independent as well. Organization is on its way out for many conservatives. They have in place the AMC for a conference to fellowship, and the IAM to send their mission offerings through. Most of them already have a network of fellowship. They simply do not need politics any more.

im independant and the only reason i would a went to tulsa was because thats the only way i could see the preaching since i dont believe in video pictures. it would be cheaper to go and buy a video machine and watch that jake feller preach if i was a backslid heathern.

i aint goin to branson tho. that place is a den of iniquity, not to mention a rippoff joint. i see comedy that good in my church.
The only thing that intersts me is that titanic thing. maybe i could get some new sermons about sinking ships and judgement.

[ogatt]

maybe some of them wpf liberals will go visit that titanic thing.

[ogatt]

does the word "sinking ship" mean anything?

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I think quite a few of those that left the UPC ARE staying independent. And some of those that were AMF have went independent as well. Organization is on its way out for many conservatives. They have in place the AMC for a conference to fellowship, and the IAM to send their mission offerings through. Most of them already have a network of fellowship. They simply do not need politics any more.

There can be good reasons for deciding to not take credentials out with an organization or a particular fellowship. Although we wouldn't ever consider ourselves to be the lone ranger type, there are some considerations that might give way to deciding to not join up with an organization per se.

Thought the day would never come when I'd make that statement, but sometimes circumstances alter cases.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Felicity

There can be good reasons for deciding to not take credentials out with an organization or a particular fellowship. Although we wouldn't ever consider ourselves to be the lone ranger type, there are some considerations that might give way to deciding to not join up with an organization per se.

Thought the day would never come when I'd make that statement, but sometimes circumstances alter cases.

Does this mean there has been some bumps in the road to rejoining the Mothership?

[RevBuddy]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I think quite a few of those that left the UPC ARE staying independent. And some of those that were AMF have went independent as well. Organization is on its way out for many conservatives. They have in place the AMC for a conference to fellowship, and the IAM to send their mission offerings through. Most of them already have a network of fellowship. They simply do not need politics any more.

STM...by their very nature, UC's are independent thinkers...they think outside the box (and the bun)...

...they think so much outside, that sometimes they think outside the book...

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by RevBuddy

STM...by their very nature, UC's are independent thinkers...they think outside the box (and the bun)...

...they think so much outside, that sometimes they think outside the book...

I'd be interested in hearing you expound on the nature of the conservative and his thought process.

How did it develop?

What inherent traits draw men in that direction?

(Other than the obvious...being right with God)