Sleeping with Uncle Jeff

[Esther]

Originally Posted by He's My Friend

Maybe the grandfather called them "liars" because he desparately wanted the awful matter to be untrue.

Remember how proud he was of his son in law ? (yuck)

That would be sick! And I can't imagine any grandfather doing that???

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by tamor

I agree with Renda. And as weird as it may seem, there are folks who love for their family to pile up in bed and sleep together.

No matter, it does not excuse what appears to be an ongoing behavior that shows the source of the problem being the uncle's character.

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by Esther

That would be sick! And I can't imagine any grandfather doing that???

Sad to say Esther, but most cases of child molestation that I hear of usually COME FROM grandfathers towards their grandchildren.

NOT ACCUSING this man of doing any such thing...just addressing the 'I can't imagine' comment...

[ILUVHIM]

Originally Posted by tamor

I agree with Renda. And as weird as it may seem, there are folks who love for their family to pile up in bed and sleep together.

Yes, with your own very young children, not a niece!!! The wife was playing up to somebodies sick fantasy!!!

[Kae]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I know I've come to this thread a little late and maybe some of this has already been discussed.

There were some things that I found very odd. Like why on earth a married woman would want a girl bordering on adolescence sleeping between she and her husband.

She wasn't between them the wife was in the middle and he had to reach over her. Regardless this is odd. Also the first time it happened according to the article was right after their honeymoon. Seems strange they would want a child of any sort in bed with them.

[tamor]

Originally Posted by crakjak

No matter, it does not excuse what appears to be an ongoing behavior that shows the source of the problem being the uncle's character.

Please. I did not say it excuses what appears to be an ongoing behavior that shows the source of the problem being the uncle's character. I just stated a fact. I have a daughters so I am NOT taking the uncle's side on this.

[rgcraig]

If this is true, I think this is the clicker......

"It remained a family secret for two more years, until Randee McDaniel, another young girl from the church, came forward."

[The Mrs]

We have several issues that have arisen from this article.

1.) The guilty, molesting Uncle.

2.) The ignorant, naive Wife.

3.) The unsupportive Grandparents.

4.) The covering-up Pastor.

5.) The inactive District Officials.

6.) The inactive UPCI Officials.


Here are some of the quotes about the UPCI's involvement...or NON-involvement...

"It's just not a matter that we're dealing with."

— Danny Russo, Superintendent, ***Texas District, UPCI

According to the UPCI's bylaws, all complaints against a pastor must first be investigated by the district before the headquarters can get involved. Complaints must be submitted in writing, signed by at least two accusers, and must state the nature, place and date of the offense. Insufficient complaints are kicked back to the complaining parties, who must submit another draft.

If this process is not followed — if, for example, there is only a verbal complaint — the district cannot open an investigation. Without evidence of a proper complaint, no UPCI officials can open an investigation. And if Texas District Superintendent Danny Russo says the district isn't interested in New Life Tabernacle, there is nothing that can be done at the national level.

General Superintendent Ken Haney politely explained this after he popped into his Tampa Marriott hotel room for a lunch break between board meetings.

"I'm vaguely familiar with that," Haney says of the rift at New Life. Unfortunately, the UPCI's bylaws prevent him from attaining knowledge beyond the level of "vaguely." His hands are tied.

"Was there a complaint properly filed?" he asks, later adding, "It is my opinion...that perhaps a complaint was not properly filed. If it is properly filed, of necessity, they have to make an investigation."

And what if a complaint is properly filed, but there's a conflict of interest between the district superintendent and the minister in question, and an investigation is never opened? Does the whole thing evaporate?

Haney assured the Press that it wouldn't.

"There's too many voices," he said. "In other words, there's too many other churches in that area with pastors that would lend themselves to complaining about it and something would have to be done."

Not satisfied with the bold proclamation that "something would have to be done," Haney added that "things will be addressed."

Then Haney had to go. He had to make another board meeting.

[tamor]

Originally Posted by The Mrs

We have several issues that have arisen from this article.

1.) The guilty, molesting Uncle.

2.) The ignorant, naive Wife.

3.) The unsupportive Grandparents.

4.) The covering-up Pastor.

5.) The inactive District Officials.

6.) The inactive UPCI Officials.


Here are some of the quotes about the UPCI's involvement...or NON-involvement...

You got it Girl!!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by tamor

Please. I did not say it excuses what appears to be an ongoing behavior that shows the source of the problem being the uncle's character. I just stated a fact. I have a daughters so I am NOT taking the uncle's side on this.

Sorry, I was responding to the thread in general not to your post, nor did I sense that your were siding with the uncle.