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View Poll Results: Will you report an Illegal Alien?
YES 13 41.94%
No 13 41.94%
Yes, but scared too. 1 3.23%
I do not know 4 12.90%
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:45 PM
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Consistency is all I ask for....otherwise, I begin to question motives...
Why would anyone care what you ask for J?

Most people are quite inconsistent.

My motive is I don't like undocumented, illegal immigrants in this country. I don't care what ethnic background they may come from.
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:45 PM
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"Hispanics...what to do with them thread" is the reason Coop started this thread. For the record I believe that everyone should go through the legal process, but I think what is in question is why this thread was started. Is it pointed towards Hispanics in general, or illegal residents? Darcie was aggitated for that reason bro.

Brother, I'm Hispanic, and I am aggravated with all the Hispanic illegals coming to this country. The very least they can do is learn English. I am more compassionate towards those who want to make a life for themselves here and take steps towards getting legal.
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Why would anyone care what you ask for J?

Most people are quite inconsistent.

My motive is I don't like undocumented, illegal immigrants in this country. I don't care what ethnic background they may come from.
and I don't like tax-breaking preachers ... it doesn't mean it's my job or patriotic duty to tattle.
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Brother, I'm Hispanic, and I am aggravated with all the Hispanic illegals coming to this country. The very least they can do is learn English. I am more compassionate towards those who want to make a life for themselves here and take steps towards getting legal.
If you report them the moment you find out that they're illegal, they won't have a chance to "take steps towards getting legal."
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Let's have a hypothetical then, just for fun. If a man, woman and child knocked on our door and said they had no food, we would give them some, regardless of their citizenship. Against the law or not.

What of people who hid Jews? Or helped them when they were being persecuted by the government? What of missionaries who sneak into other countries to preach the Gospel? And no, I'm not comparing the immigrant plight to that of Jews...I'm saying that there is something to be said for doing the right thing, regardless of what law enforcement would prefer.

We are to obey the laws of the land, but when it comes to a question of legal vs. moral, choose moral. There is something in there about...obeying God rather than man.

So illegal aliens are on par with missionairies and Jews being persecuted?
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Uh ... once again you fail to comparmentalize ... no one is advocating open borders ... I'm the first to say seal them up ... this then leaves us w/ the issue of what to do with the moral and ethical question of what we do w/ those who are here and have helped shape our economy ... contributing to our tax system and are will to take a path to legal citizenship ...

and whether or not It's the CHRISTIAN THING TO PLAY COP ... W/ every sinner that comes through the church's door.
Ah, I see, you are appealing to my socially liberal side?

No can do.

I don't believe most of the folks who trumpet closing our borders. They know it will never happen so it is easy to say.

I will say this. If someone is here illegally, yet truly wanted to make things right and become a citizen, I would do everything in my power to help them.
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and I don't like tax-breaking preachers ... it doesn't mean it's my job or patriotic duty to tattle.
Somehow I find that hard to believe.
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Phooey J-Roc, that is a convenient excuse and you know it. I have a Filipino cousin who went through the process. It took her years but she did it.

These guys don't want to go through the process. Many of them have no desire for U.S. citizenship unless we give it to them on a silver platter. I have a real problem with that.

Further, there aren't sound ways to fix the sytem because some folks DON'T WANT IT FIXED!!!!! They would rather turn their heads and make big bucks by siphoning off American jobs.

The bottom line is they are here illegally - period.

They are criminals.

It's not just making bucks....it's also saving bucks....there are far too many hypocrites who scream from the top of their lungs against illegal immigration and yet hire them to work on their next home remodeling project....so that they can low-ball them and pay dirt prices.... it's not the illegal immigration I advocate PP.....it's the hypocrisy that I loathe....it does not start and end with illegal immigrants.....there are lot of others that have to come down too and so he who is without sin let him throw the first rock.....as a group (as a nation), we are guilty....and yet we want to place all blame on the immigrants.
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It's not just making bucks....it's also saving bucks....there are far too many hypocrites who scream from the top of their lungs against illegal immigration and yet hire them to work on their next home remodeling project....so that they can low-ball them and pay dirt prices.... it's not the illegal immigration I advocate PP.....it's the hypocrisy that I loathe....it does not start and end with illegal immigrants.....there are lot of others that have to come down too and so he who is without sin let him throw the first rock.....as a group (as a nation), we are guilty.

Now here is a point of agreement.
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So illegal aliens are on par with missionairies and Jews being persecuted?
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And no, I'm not comparing the immigrant plight to that of Jews...I'm saying that there is something to be said for doing the right thing, regardless of what law enforcement would prefer.

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